Vegas Message Board Vs Other Sites

Thanks for the honestly and candor Sonya. This is the idea the moderation is done to protect ties with resorts and to keep the money flowing to your pocket, which I think is bunk.

There is an idea that you are not allowed to talk negatively about a property or a place and that is not true either. You offer constructive criticism but saying going to x... is like having ghonnera is honestly not helpful, as those people probably never went to x and never would.

There is an elitist aspect it to imo. Or at least they are refuse to recognize or accept people do vegas in a different way.

 

I have to admit I've been trying the other board as well as this one. One thing I've noticed that there are some very opinionated people on the other one to the point of almost nastiness...since I'm usually a very polite person this has turned me off. I suppose temperament is important too and I'm feeling that for me, perhaps somewhere that's more moderated has its advantages as well.

 

It is interesting to read these two observations back to back. There are times in the past I have felt the same as Wanker. And I think what he is saying is true, but only very rarely. I believe the vase majority of members posting opinions, sometimes very animated opinions, are not doing it from a perspective of trying to shit on the opinions of other members who experience Vegas differently or at a lower level. And the best way to recognize that an opinion is not coming from some snobby, elitist perspective is the temperament (or I would say tone) of the member.

I hope Nate doesn't mind me using his TRs as an example, but it really illustrates what I am trying to say. Nate posts reports of Vegas experiences and opinions from a level and perspective that very few of us will ever experience. Its also fair to say that his reports and opinions are universally loved and never come across as being elitist. And I think that's because of nate's temperament in his writing.

Fortunately, I think that elitist tone is very rare on here. Having met a handful of different VMBers over the past few years, I can also say that everyone I have met is very down to earth and good, fun people to share some vegas experiences with.

 

Yes it puts a bad taste in my mouth. Nate, personality, temperament, willing to bend and common decency as I said openly before is arguably the most important things to being successful in life, business and on these boards. It's like kids, they need consistency, discipline and they need sometimes to be "moderated". Same for these sites. That is done here. There is a board that is all over the place and I need just a little more structure with less attitude as far as posts. That just isn't me but that comes from the top.
This board has taken on a personality like Sonya. That's obviously a good thing just look at years here and all the members.

 

I meant that more in terms of "the outlanders" haha. This board does well with the diversity.

And I agree with nate there is anger and nastiness and it may be temporary or it may swallow the board whole.

Ever been to wizard of vegas and thier forums. I lurk there never even signed up cause well holy crap! It is like the ok corral!

 

lol, I agree. I recall another VMBer once describing WoV as a lord of flies style experiment. That's an apt description and the reason I only lurked and never joined there (don't even really lurk often anymore).

Long story short: this board appeals to certain types of members and posts. I think Packer is right when he says it has taken on Sonya's personality. And this style board is not for everyone. Which is why the internet is a big place with plenty of other sites for people that want different conversations and a different tone.

 

VMB only here since 2008

 

When I first joined there (before I joined here), it was pretty serious. But over time the posters that posted frequently became more and more noise and less and less signal. Many infrequent posters that would post awesome posts when they did post just stopped posting there completely. Their "top poster" in terms of posts is complete noise and he is sarcastic as they come and most of it isn't even funny, just rings bitter. But he magically skirts under the "no insults" rule nearly every time. I actually prided myself for getting 3000 posts in there before starting a single thread because I mostly tried to answer others' questions there. My first thread there was my first TR that was cross-posted here and there. But as time marches on, I'm at VMB a lot more and more. Also the board software at Shack's site is very poor imo, which doesn't help. Non-regulars start threads in the incorrect section all the time there, much more than here.

It sorta is. But they do have moderators! They just don't seem to do a bunch unless insults or spam are actually flying. And i've felt insulted a few times there, and reported it, but nothing was done. And general organization there...that's on the back burner. They may move/split a thread weekly. :evillaugh The main problem is I think most people use the "Recent Thread Tab" to post from. I know I do.

 

I spend about 10% of my Vegas time here as I feel its one of the better Vegas related boards.
There is another board where the other 10% of my time goes. This second board is dedicated to slot play but its slot play in any location and not many people there do Vegas.
I find this board looks down on slot players but is awesome for everything related to Vegas.
The other board is great for slot talk, but Vegas isn't discussed often enough.

 

VMB is so active. Indeed the best forum on Las Vegas and am loyal to it.

 

There can be no denying that this VMB is a great site for Vegas and Gambling in general and even non vegas/gambling discussions, and I have seen it grow since 2010 when I frequented here before joining. That is a testament to a well run board. The years of enjoyment I received, mainly from trip reports from many of the people who took the time either live or post trip to share, made me want to give back and experience the fun it provides me to do a live from report. I always figured there was moderation but it never seemed oppressive, nor interfered with my postings, which until recently were minor. Comparing this to other sites I frequent for Cruising and Video Games related stuff, the moderation here seems minor at best compared to those sites. (I say that knowing that people that may have been moderated a bit more may see it differently). So with the preceding statement in mind, alternate sites can never be a bad thing looking at it from a consumer point of view as options usually always benefit the users and option a may not be for you so option b may be.

My approach is I generally stay away from hot topic items on any board related to most items as so often it is hard to convey appropriate meaning many times from written messages. Others may look at that and say how boring that is, as they may like a lively discussion, ( as I do but more so in live face to face talk so my meanings do not get misconstrued due to possibly my poor written vocabulary etc.). So my long winded thoughts are I love this board, and I plan to post reports and other items here, and I will frequent other boards as well to experience what they have to offer.

Thanks to Sonya for the effort I know it takes to run a website like this, it is not something I could ever do. And thanks to ALL the contributors to this site, and others, as their content is what makes these sites what they are over a period of time.

PS: Sorry Packer, I did not really follow the OP in my response.

 

I will generally check around any number of sites for vegas news.

But I only talk about vegas or ask questions on here. There really hasn't been any reason to go elsewhere, I get fun conversations and the answers I need.

 

I recall a thread that was started not long ago asking slot players (and there are many slot enthusiasts here) asking us why we play. I felt that many slot players here did a great job in explaining why they enjoy playing slots.

The first 20 or so years I went to Vegas, I was a table player and dabbled occasionally in slots. Once all the new video slots came on the scene, I got hooked. My biggest wins have been on slots and VP and I could never have risked enough to match those wins at the tables. Now I play slots and dabble at the tables. my comps have improved greatly since making the change.

Slot players unite lol. I love playing them and manage to waste time watching YouTube videos of great slot hits between trips.

 

The "stupid" play is playing a game you don't know or like simply because the pundits are yelling at you. I certainly can't claim game purity as I'll chose shorter pay VP in an environment I enjoy versus a percentage gain in a hole. Everyone who likes Vegas needs to thank the high high rollers and slot players, btw.

Getting this back on track, since segues drive some nuts here: It is a big internet world out there, and there are many ways to get your 'net on. As with the statement above, post where you like, like where you post, however many places that might be. A thick skin and a good safety on the report-to-moderator finger go a long way toward realizing that what was seen as a grievance really wasn't a grievance in the first place.

 

Although the "nastiness" isn't as rampant here, it does exist. I have had infractions for "handing it back" to a couple of posters on here, and I get it. I'm not a huge contributor like some of the sacred cows, and I think that shows. I've seen a couple posters here who can do no wrong when it comes to shitting on other posters.

That's business as usual at most sites. I know I get more leash at some sites where I have 30,000 posts, over the guy with 500. I get it. But, this place is a far cry from "zero tolerance".

All in all, I enjoy the site. I don't envy anyone who has to moderate any internet forum.

 

Really VMB is the only Vegas site I visit daily, there are some I visit occasionally but that's it, only so much time in the day and I know most of the members here are legit folks as well. I visited one of the boards mentioned here earlier in the thread and tried to sign up, all was good till the sign up info went a bit too far wanting actual name and such, WTF do you need my real name especially in this day and age of ID theft. On the Mod issue as a Mod on two boards this one is by comparison a dream job from what I have seen.

 

This perception is what is difficult for a moderator and why it is difficult to keep everyone happy. I know at times I have erred on the side of, "well it could be taken the wrong way, let's see what happens" only to come back later to find the proverbial shit has hit the fan and that is where someone like you Rush may have responded in the middle of the aftermath to an "iffy" post that was the catalyst.

We're human, mistakes are made, but we all share one common interest, Vegas and our desire to have a friendly place to exchange info and talk about our Vegas obsession lol.