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Discussion in 'Comps' started by Metfan, Aug 14, 2012.

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  1. Metfan

    Metfan Guest

    I thought I'd share this to see what everyone thinks.

    In July, I visited Wynn and lost $2,000 on VP. I put in around $20,000. Really bad payout!

    Today I received 3 free nights in a junior king suite plus $500 in free credit.

    Is that "good"?
     
  2. LOCALGAMBLER77

    LOCALGAMBLER77 Tourist

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    VP is another animal

    In my experience, VP is treated like a different "animal" than slot play and even the tables. However, having run through $20,000 at least in the VP machines, should warrant a wonderful offer and your offer does not seem like one. It seems low to me.
     
  3. Polemarch28

    Polemarch28 Tourist

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    I'm going to disagree and say that the offer sounds pretty good.

    $20,000 coin in on VP is not the same as $20,000 coin in on a typical slot. Where a slot machine is likely to swallow about 10% of that coin in ($2,000), a VP machine is going to vary, based on the skill of the player. Some VP machines are actually close to a 0% house edge when played correctly, and even the worst machines in the house aren't much more than 2-3%. Where the true house edge comes into play for the casino is when people play suboptimally. And since basic strategy on VP is so much more complex than something like blackjack, almost all players play suboptimally. The house edge can skyrocket.

    If you lost $2,000 on VP because you got unlucky, then I think the offer is larger than I would typically expect. But it may make sense, depending on how much you're spending elsewhere, their occupancy on those dates/months etc. There's probably a rhyme/reason to it.

    But if you lost $2,000 on VP because you're terrible at it, and consistently make the wrong plays, they may very well be factoring that in to your worth as a player. If they can count on a $2,000 theo from you every time, then it makes perfect sense why they'd want to offer you a suite and F&B.

    So I guess I'd say, it varies based on the quality of your play, the machines you chose, and the length of time during which you popped the $20K coin in.
     
  4. thecarve

    thecarve Misanthrope

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    Is that good?! I don't think there's any possible way to look at this as anything other than the offer of the century. The $500 credit alone is more than your theo from last trip. Jump on this!

    Edit: This comment is based on you taking several hours to a few days to cycle through that $20K. If you did it in an hour or so, disregard what I just said.
     
  5. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    I think that is a great offer. Go and enjoy. Sounds like a great deal. Heck, I did that at V/P in SLOTS and got way less.


    By the way, there is no extra charge to add more words in the subject/title.
     
  6. Boogaloo

    Boogaloo Low-Roller

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    Considering the level of play, that's phenomenal - it should be taken in a heart beat if you're planning a trip back.
     
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