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Wynn -spa comp and theo question

Discussion in 'Comps' started by nyc, Nov 4, 2014.

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  1. nyc

    nyc Tourist

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    I was surprised on a recent trip to hear wynn doesn't comp spa unless you lose 50k. Has anybody heard this before?

    Also what does everybody think theo is on 3050 a hand for 12hrs38minutes almost exclusively 6 deck blackjack heads up?
     
  2. broncofn

    broncofn VIP Whale

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    Over how many days? That is very good action and you should be comped. Did you have a lot of room charges to where they could not comp the spa? I have never heard of a resort/casino not being able to comp spa services but maybe you had too much in room charges already.
     
  3. nyc

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    3 nights. Was told I had comps left but that they don't comp spa unless you lose and I won a lot
     
  4. broncofn

    broncofn VIP Whale

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    It is strange to me but im sure someone else can chime in with more experience at Wynn.
     
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    sindustry VIP Whale

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    They don't comp happy endings . Seriously, I have no idea, but I would guess your theo would be high 20k to low 30k. Try giving a host a call and see if they can give you your theo. They may be sticking their nose up to you, since your won.
     
  6. nyc

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    So it sounds like it's BS. I have a host. He emailed me and said they don't comp spa or a bunch of other things I thought they would comp unless you lose 50k. I get the feeling that is total BS - I've never had to pay for spa in a casino, and I definitely had comps left over.

    My reason for posting this is that if that is a lie and it's not a rule at the Wynn other people have heard of, I'm never playing another dollar there again... btw this would be the first winning trip there out of 4 so far...
     
  7. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    Last fall, I had spa services for both my sister and I comped and it was a winning trip. So if this is the policy its probably newish.
     
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    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    Wynn is very stingy with comps.

    also, many hosts make it their own personal policy to screw you on comps if you win.

    so they refuse to give you hard/hard-ish comps like AF or spa unless you lose even if you have the theo.

    not a chance. BJ doesn't do much theo esp if they have you tagged as a player.

    I'm guessing 12-14k on that play.
     
  9. dankyone

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    The way MGM rates blackjack play, your theo is 3050 x .0075 x 70 x 12.5 = $20,015.

    I don't know Wynn's exact formula but it is similar. If they think you are a skilled player or "don't like your style of play" the theoretical loss will be lower and/or the host will feel entitled to tell you no to certain things.

    The spa at Aria is quite nice as is Qua at CP. I would mention that in your next email to the Wynn host.
     
  10. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    that .75 HA number is the average player number.

    it's .50 if they have you marked as a skilled player.
     
  11. nyc

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    probably 30-45 minutes in there of $1000/spin at Roulette.. since we're talking about theo how is that calculated?
     
  12. Jordan

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    This floors me, how petty....Shame on you Wynn!

    Just out of curiousity, how much are we talking in SPA charges here?
     
  13. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    the wheel gives tons of theo.

    single or double 0?

    probably looking at a 2-5k theo just from that, depending.
     
  14. nyc

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    $500
     
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    Single 0
     
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    Truly unbelievable they wouldn't pick that up when playing 3000/hand--they may be trying to send you a message that they don't like your play for some reason.
     
  17. nyc

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    Yep that is the only thing I can think of. Fine by me - Aria LOVES my play :)
     
  18. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Yea, they should have comped that. The SPA there is inhouse, right?

    I know most will not comp the retail side, or the tip.
     
  19. nyc

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    i know retail/tip is out of the question under almost all circumstances, but some of the other stuff they said they won't comp without a 50k loss was pretty astounding to me. what i responded to host is "so if i generate 30k in theo, have 5k in comps left over after all other comps, and lose 40k, and have $1000 in spa charges, no comp?"
     
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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    They may have just saved themselves $500 and some back room accountant is high-fiveing his boss.

    Meanwhile, the casino take will go down when you move along to another casino. And they will not know why. Silly people.
     
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