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Wynn offer letter October 2014

Discussion in 'Comps' started by PayTriple, Oct 24, 2014.

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  1. PayTriple

    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    The offer in this letter is vague.
    How many nights? What type of suite? Any food and beverage comps? Any free play?

    What can I realistically expect?

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  2. lotso-bear

    lotso-bear VIP Whale

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    Doesn't hurt to give them a call and see what they offer. i'm sure everyone's offer is different so better to call them than get feedback on VMB.
     
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    Good marketing.. Now you are going to call them aren't you? They did there job.
     
  4. RiddickBull

    RiddickBull VIP Whale

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    If you need a host, let me know. My host there is awesome.

    It is impossible to know accommodations without average bet, theo, etc. It looks like you are a good player from that letter.
     
  5. PayTriple

    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    Well actually I think it is very useful to hear from others on VMB who have experience with the Wynncore casinos before I call.

    I want to enter the conversation with Marlon armed with knowledge.

    Is Marlon even the right host to talk to? Is there a better one at the Wynncore? This type of information is what I can get from the VMB.
     
  6. PayTriple

    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    Thanks I will send you a pm about your host.

    I have a $75k credit line that I activated over the summer on a hit and run visit to eat at Wing Lei restaurant.
    Played single zero roulette for about 3 hours avg bet $1500 per spin, made $9k and left.
    I did meet a host there but never heard from him.
     
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    Good call, I didn't think about that. Knowledge is power
     
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    We just received a very similar letter with a few differences. Our letter and fine print mentions 3 nights in a Wynn Deluxe Resort room or 3 nights in an Encore Resort King Suite . Your room type isn't specified so you probably have much greater options than us (nicer room, longer stay). Our offer is to be booked through the room reservation number, whereas you've been asked to book through a host.

    Your fine print mentions 6000 points per day on slots, 4 hours on table games at $300 average bet for additional comps.

    Our fine print mentions 5000 points per day on slots, 4 hours on table games at $250 average bet for additional comps.

    Since you're being held to a higher standard, I would guess you'd be offered better up front comps.

    Finally, one more difference I noticed - Your letter mentions the golf course, specialty restaurants and the award winning spas and salons whereas our letter doesn't. To me it sounds like they think you will enjoy those amenities so you may be able to negotiate a round of golf or a visit to the spa if that interests you. Hope that helps.
     
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    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    Thank you that is helpful.
    I am surprised at the apparent size of the jump in the offer just for an additional $50 avg bet per hour or $1000 slot play per day.
     
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    If they have you pegged as a roulette player, the offers will be substantially better than if your primarily a blackjack or craps player due to the increased house advantage.Casino's LOVE roulette players.
     
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    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    Interesting. I play single zero on the outside bets so the house advantage is only 1.35%.
    I wonder how they calculate my theo, at a house advantage of 1.35% or at 2.7%? Certainly not at 5.4%, which is the HA at double zero roulette?
     
  12. lotso-bear

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    PayTriple, did you give them a call to see what they're offering you? If not, let us know since I'm curious! (If you don't mind that is.)
     
  13. PayTriple

    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    I have my trips lined up for the next few months so I am all set for now.
    I'll probably try to meet a host in person on my trip in January for MLK weekend with the letter in hand, while I'm actually playing some roulette and have $75k in chips in front of me.
    This should make the kind of first impression with a host that should get me the best offer possible.
     
  14. Malibugolfer

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    Pay Triple,
    it also may be a marketing person who has been reviewing LOCs and saw yours was more or less dormant.
     
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    PayTriple,
    Do you bet Column/Column/0? (Even amount on all three bets?)
     
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    Peachiekeehn High-Roller

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    about 2 weeks ago I received a letter from them offering me 2 or 3 free nights and I think I gambled $20 in a slot machine back in 2009 and I don't believe I have a players card with them. Still shaking my head over that one!
     
  17. PayTriple

    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    No I bet on the so called even money bets on the outside of the layout.
    "1-18" "19-36" "black" "red" "even" or "odd".
    This way if the zero shows up I get half my money back. This makes the HA only 1.35%
     
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    Ahha, I just thought I remembered seeing a picture you posted, with you betting the columns.
    Isn't that European rules? (Obviously, a Single-Zero is a Euro Wheel..but...)
     
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    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    Yes but these wheels are only found in Vegas in the high limit rooms and minimum bet on the outside is $100.
     
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    Almost the same for us but we've never even stepped foot in the place. They must have done some research to get our name but we have no idea from where. Anyhow, it's a really good "come-on" offer so we booked for early next year.

    The 1,000 slot play required is actually points, not dollars. I've read varying reports but at a minimum I've read that $6 equals one point so you'd be looking at $6000 slot play per day more than us (which really isn't that much when you consider that's money run through the machine and not original investment).

    I think your offer is probably based on your previous roulette play. They've seen what you can do in 3 hours and want you back. Our offer is based on nothing but as far as first offers go, ours is very generous I think. If they're willing to give us free room as an unknown (admittedly at a slow time of year), I would think as a known player, you would get some pretty good extras.
     
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