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Wynn Comp Requirements

Discussion in 'Comps' started by oghuman, Oct 22, 2015.

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  1. oghuman

    oghuman High-Roller

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    I’ve been getting emails from an independent host offering me Wynn entry in various slot tournaments and stay at Wynn. He doesn’t come out and say what he’s exactly offering me until I say I want to go. I play mostly VP. I like the property and am a 7* at CET with about 500,000+ reward points accumulated. I feel that I’m just a minnow at Wynn while I get nice treatment at Caesars properties. I'm headed for CP next week and getting a
    comp for 5 nights in a SPA Suite plus $750 FP . How much approximate coin in is required for room and some food(not buffet) comps? I'm looking at a stay maybe next year.
     
  2. thecarve

    thecarve Misanthrope

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    It's hard to pin down an exact figure for my coin-in as not all Wynn machines "pay" the same with respect to Red Card points and their comp system is as opaque as it comes. I usually earn about 7500 RC points a day. According to what I've read, that equates to anywhere from $37,500-112,500 at VP. My guess is that I'm in the neighborhood of $50-70k maybe? I also play a little BJ and PGP. But VP gets the lion's share of my time/money.

    My host usually gets me four nights up front in a Panoramic (Wynn-speak for high floor) room, limo and ~$400 freeplay. On the back end, she usually comps a similar amount of food and beverage. I also get invites to plenty of slot tourneys and other events that often carry a decent expected value - far more than the value of my generic offers (usually three nights + $400 FP).

    Edit to add: the Red Card points you accumulate are worth $1 for every 100 points in either freeplay or comps.
     
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  3. flong

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    Why not just tell the independent host you are going and see what they have to offer.
     
  4. oghuman

    oghuman High-Roller

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    Yes, that's true. I'm trying to gauge what kind of play earns what kind of comps for VP.
     
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    I am mostly a VP and slots player at Encore. I started receiving 3 comped nights (with the host typically adding a 4th) and $500 in FSP. No up front food and beverage. When I receive my reservation confirmation by email it actually says that additional complimentaries are available once 7000 points are placed on my card. I think if it's 5000 or more you can get additional comps. I also had a vague recollection of being told before than comped rooms in the Encore Tower suites "cost" effectively 5000-7000 points a day, which is consistent with the note that pops up in my confirmation. Hope that helps.
     
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    oghuman High-Roller

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    THanks, I'm still not sure what the coin-in for 1 reward credit. I know there are variations for tier credits at CET if the get a full pay Vp machine $25 is required for 1 tier credit but not sure that also means one reward credit. So based on what the Carve said it also varies at Wynncore.
    So I'm still not sure what's required to earn a reward point. i'll be in Caesars this coming week, if I have time I'll bring over a few hundred just to see how many reward points I earn for a test.
     
  7. dvandentop

    dvandentop VIP Whale

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    It is $1.50 per point isn't it? Well atleast for slots
     
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    thecarve Misanthrope

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    Between $5-15/point on VP. But it doesn't seem to be completely dependent on the paytable.

    For example, the $5 9/6 DDB game in the HL room gives you 5 points per hand - $5/point. But a $1 8/5 triple play STP DDB game on the floor only gets you 3 points per hand - $6/point - despite the fact that the house advantage is significantly higher on that game.

    And of course, $5 9/6 DDB games on the main floor only give 4 points per hand. Because...well, why not? :rolleyes2:
     
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  9. oghuman

    oghuman High-Roller

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    Thanks Carve, I play lots of triple, five or ten play @ $1 sometimes $2 at 3 and 5 play, with some occasion 3 -5 play STP.
     
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    Thanks for the info thecarve!
    I never figure out Wynn's point system. I don't even know how many points I have.
    Since they don't have a tier level, I don't care about my points anyway.
     
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    thecarve Misanthrope

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    You can use the points as freeplay or to "comp yourself". 100 points = $1 (at least for freeplay, that's all I've ever done). Talk to the Red Card booth people to learn how. It's Wynn, so the money doesn't add up quickly. But it's something at least. Don't want to leave money on the table!
     
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    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    $6 coin-in per point looks to be the standard amount according to VPFree2. So usually you should get 4 points a hand at $5 level. Except for ~99.5% VP which is $15/point.
    http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/wynn-las-vegas/club

    But that doesn't mean all machines are correctly programmed for comps. Last week I played on a machine at my local that has the highest paytables they offer for nickel play and also has the point settings set the same as a slot machine, so I got double the tier credits than I should have while playing that machine. It's been that way for months now.
     
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    This (unpredictable points-paying) hasn't been temporary. Been that way as long as I've been playing VP there. Perhaps half the machines are programmed incorrectly? I don't know. But it isn't like I once put a twenty through and extrapolated from there.
     
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    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    I would play on the $5/point machines when you can, obv. According to vpfree2, the last change to the comp system was in Sep. 2011. Back then it was $9/point, but points were worth double, so $4.50/point under the current value system. If you are earning a point every $4.50 coin-in, that would make even more sense.
     
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    I quit trying to figure it out. All I know is when we played $1 ($9 coin in for max bet) WOF, the points added up quickly. When we play $1 ($5 coin-in) VP not so quickly. That said we usually end up putting about 5,000 points/day on our (joint) RC account and we always get as many nights as we want comp'd up front, show tickets if we want them and around $2-300 comp'd in F&B at the end so I usually have about a $1k bill when we leave. We also go to the Beau Rivage sometimes in Biloxi and MILF (ummm....I mean MLIFE:wink2:) is much more generous with the comps (usually pick up everything) but I just love staying, playing and eating at Wynncore. Bottom line, I just play what I play and get what I get...most importantly, have fun:beer:
     
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    My local the 99% machines are 1 per $30 in or something dumb like that. Last year that got new machines in one of the boats... they were set at the normal earn rated for a month or two
     
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