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Table Games WTF happened to Blackjack at NYNY?!

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by ams722, Jun 3, 2013.

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  1. ams722

    ams722 Side Bet Shunner

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    Just got back from a weeklong stay in Vegas.

    During my last trip in March I had a few great sessions playing BJ at NYNY. Six decks, 3:2, surrender, resplit aces, etc. Typical MGM property rules. So I was looking forward to playing it once again there for a few sessions.

    Lo and behold, I get there and all I can find are crappy 8 deck 6:5 tables. There were two double deck tables that I *believe* were 3:2 for $25 minimum, but I'm more of a red chipper so I didn't want to blow a big chunk of my bankroll on those.

    I finally settle down to play at a table that I thought was 3:2. I get my first blackjack on a $15 bet and get paid $18. Grrrrrrrr.... I missed the little 6:5 sign on this table as well. I colored up immediately and asked where the heck the 3:2 tables went. The dealer said that there were only four 3:2 tables left, and she directed me to them. What is this, a Caesars property?!?!

    Instead of following her directions, I walked out the door and down to the Monte Carlo.
     
  2. Mitkraft

    Mitkraft High-Roller

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    Good job, way to vote with your feet!
     
  3. undathesea

    undathesea Grandissimo

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    I like to play at Monte Carlo as well. Easy to find great rules for cheap mins.

    I refuse to play CSM and while I can find games with good rules at Aria, they usually come with the CSM until you're playing at $50-100.
     
  4. Big Tip

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    lol. That is exactly what I said to a dealer at Mirage when I unknowingly sat at a 6/5 blackjack table. That was the first time I had encountered a 6/5 table at an MGM/Mirage property. I was shocked, angry, disappointed, and saddened all at the same time. lol

    I colored up and found a regular table.
     
  5. paperposter

    paperposter VIP Whale

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    thats more and the way the strip is becoming and condider most people who sit down know or care they get way with it.
     
  6. Viva Las Vegas

    Viva Las Vegas Ramblin' Gamblin' Man

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    It's only a matter of time before this becomes the standard across all Vegas MILFe properties at the red and possibly green chip level.

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    "Our customers and employees must continue to sacrifice to meet my compensation demands in this challenging economy."

    It's prudent for serious BJ players to buy the Wong sheets before booking any blackjack comp offer at a MILFe or any other Vegas property (CET players do not have to bother :thumbsup:).

    I changed my mind about accepting a Cosmo offer after not finding a playable table during my last few trips and seeing how things have only gotten worse since last year.

    Just say no to 6/5 BJ, $9 beer or $600 bottles of Smirnoff.

    The More You Know.

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  7. ams722

    ams722 Side Bet Shunner

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    One other annoyance from this trip:

    I pretty much only played BJ at Monte Carlo after this NYNY clusterf**k. I like to play two hands to lower the variance. There was one really good dealer (whose name I can't remember!!!) who knew basic strategy inside and out. She kept complimenting my play and told other players to listen to me while she was on break. I think I played at her table on three different days.

    One morning when I wasn't at her table, I was playing at a table with just one other woman. Her cards totaled a 10 against the dealer's 3. The lady asks if she should double and the dealer responds "No, only with an 11 against a 3." ARRRRGHHHHHH! I almost threw up on the table when I heard that.

    Then I was dealt A,7 against her 5 and I doubled, and won. However, she says "Next time you do that I'm just going to take your money." I responded, "Why? You should ALWAYS double a soft 18 against a bust card." She responded with something snarky but I can't remember exactly what she said.

    I told the other dealer (the one who actually knows basic strategy) about her the next day and she seemed horrified.
     
  8. mike_m235

    mike_m235 Tourist

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    I was at Mirage in April and their blackjack was very good, although you did have to watch for a couple bad tables mixed in.

    They had four $25 tables, 6 deck, 3:2, DAS, Dealer stand on soft 17...you aren't going to get rules any better than that.
     
  9. kewidogg

    kewidogg Low-Roller

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    Does Monte Carlo have any $5 tables by chance? Anyone see any?
     
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    rgerards Low-Roller

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    yea, on slow times and in early morning, there was one. Excalibur had one going allmost all day. I could not find decent rules @ NYNY either.
     
  11. ams722

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    Yes, there are usually plenty available in the morning/early afternoon (both 8 deck shoe and CSM tables). Typical (good) MGM rules at these tables.

    I played on them several times in the last week.
     
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    I'm expecting a press release at some point saying they are switching every table to 6/5 due to popular demand. Customers are requesting this and they have no choice but to offer what the customers want. :)
     
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    uli_1515 Low-Roller

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    That picture just made my day!
     
  15. Joe

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    Not a big BJ player, but that is too funny or sad, not sure which! Well yes I am, it's sad! Marketing works!
     
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    just rember we the customers demaded 6/5 bj and there only doing what we asked for:cry:
     
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    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    I agree. And I'm not sure it's a photoshop or not. :eek: The dude at bj21.com says it's authentic. :(
     
  18. Kickin

    Kickin Flea

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    Like the sign says it's there by popular demand!

    So quit yer yappin' ya lousy consumers...
     
  19. Mitkraft

    Mitkraft High-Roller

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    But it's all ok because you get free Internet (only wired at NYNY) and a bottle of water :wink2:
     
  20. WrongWayWade

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    I mean, 6 is bigger than 3, 5 is bigger than 2, that's like a total of 6 BIGGER!!! Whopping!!!
     
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