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would you engage with a rude person in a casino or ignore them?

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by imwired, Jun 13, 2014.

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  1. imwired

    imwired Low-Roller

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    My DH and I had a negative experience in a casino recently. DH sat down next to me at the bar and started playing VP. There was no reserved sign on the machine, no drink there, no napkin covering the screen. After a few minutes, a man walked up, tapped DH on the shoulder and said this was his machine. My DH said it looked like no one was sitting there. At this point, a woman in the next seat turned her head and said "oh yeah I forgot to save it"

    The guy (older and smaller than my DH) was getting kind of assertive about it so in the interest of keeping the peace, DH cashed out his money and moved. The bar was pretty full.
    A few minutes went by and I noticed the nasty old guy wasn't even playing - just watching his GF. I spontaneously said to him "you made my husband give up his seat and you're not even playing"

    He then restated that the seat was warm and we should have known it was taken and said he'd kick my husband's ass.
    I just turned away from him and about a minute later, they left.

    I know this guy wasn't worth getting in a conflict with. I regret engaging him.
    But would you hold your ground if someone approached you and said you were sitting in their seat when there was no indication it was saved?
     
  2. paperposter

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    i would have offerd to sell it to him if he wanted that badly , f him
     
  3. DeMoN2318

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    I wouldnt have moved thats for sure...

    I probably wouldnt have made the comment you did though...unless I was intoxicated and feeling gully.

    I love the "the seat was warm comment"
     
  4. Gofaster87

    Gofaster87 Low-Roller

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    I would have told him to take hike and taken him up on his threat. In your case you can just call security, they dont take kindly to people threatening others over a seat.
     
  5. MoneyToBurn

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    Quite a lot of variables, for me. Sitting here relaxing after work, I would be inclined to, given the woman intimated they were playing together. In practice, though, if I'm playing VP at the bar, I'm probably drunk, and I don't like being touched, so someone tapping me on the shoulder would start with a rather deep hole to climb out from, with curses raining down on them all the while.

    I don't really get the "saved machine" bit anyways, but that didn't sound like one, and if the woman didn't say anything immediately, she probably didn't expect him back anytime soon.

    Anyways, sober, in a foreign country (to me, anyways) with concealed carry permits, cameras everywhere, and another 1200 VP machines next door, yeah, I'd move just to keep the peace. Drunk, with a wife or equivalent looking on, not much chance.
     
  6. RorySF

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    It depends on the situation. Something like that, I'm not going to mess with. There are other places to go and I can just mutter bad words under my breath. That would chap my hide, though, seeing him not even doing anything after I left. I had that happen to me with a slot machine once, at my local casino.

    If someone's really obnoxious for no reason, I do have a tendency to get in it with them. However, if it looks like it's going to escalate, and not in my favor, I run :eek:
     
  7. imwired

    imwired Low-Roller

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    I was a bit intoxicated
    He said the seat was warm twice - to me and to my DH - what an AH

    And my second mistake was to tell DH about the kicking ass comment - lesson learned on that one. Guess my mouth gets loose from alcohol sometimes.
     
  8. imwired

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    The woman looked like she could care less about his seat....she was busy playing - probably with his $........she said in a very blase' tone - "oh yeah"
    Bottom line to me the guy wasn't worth getting into trouble and possibly messing up our rep at the casino. I guess DH could have stood his ground and said sorry your machine wasn't saved and the guy probably would have gone away.
     
  9. LolaDoggie

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    It would depend on my mood. I can serenely ignore stuff or go passive aggressive or get my back up.
     
  10. Sonya

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    I try not to get worked up by other people, especially in Vegas. There are assholes everywhere you look, so I prefer not to look for them.

    I probably would have handled it like your husband did and just move. If he continued to be a jerk, I'd just walk away. Life is too short.
     
  11. Joe

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    I wouldn't have moved. If it escalated, I simply would have asked the bartender to call security and continue to ignore him. Many times playing at the bar, people try and engage me in conversation and if they are drunk and obnoxious, I ignore.
     
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    It's not saved unless you use the magic napkin.

    Assuming I'm mildly intoxicated: If the guy asked nice, I'd probably let him have his seat back. If he was a jerk about it, I'd push back a little but then give up the seat. If he tried to bully my wife out of the seat there would be problems.

    I think you did the right thing. Sometimes you just have to engage rude jerks and not let them boss people around.
     
  13. wpete

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    The international signal of a saved seat is to have at least 1 credit in the machine and the chair propped up against it. If at least 1 of these 2 things did not happen, the seat was not saved and the guy deserved a brush-off with a 'don't ever touch me again' warning.

    I was having lunch one day at an in-and-out in Burbank. The place was packed but since I was a sole I was able to find a spot to sit and eat. 5 minutes into my lunch some guy comes up and tries to tell me that the seat I was in was reserved for him. I look up and say "at an in-and-out?". And then proceed to laugh at him. A few seconds later the whole section was laughing at him.
     
  14. smartone

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    I would've moved and not thought another thing of it... but that's me in 2014... me in 1990 wouldda told 'em to fuck-off... I used to love a good conflict and was not adverse to a good fight if it came to that.
    I never instigated anything, but I hate rude and obnoxious people. I'm a good sized guy and usually intimidate my way into or out of things, but I learned a long time ago getting hit just doesn't hurt like you think it would and have been in my share of throw downs. They also don't last that long.

    Me in 2014 has no problem movin'-on... I have too much to lose these days and though I genuinely feel like that Toby Keith song, "I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was..." describes me, I'm not exactly positive about it and why risk ruining a fun couple days over some bull-shit. Now if someone else is an aggressor for some reason, whole different ballgame, but this sounds easy to have just found some new real-estate like the OP did.
     
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    I'm with Joe on this one. No card, drink, napkin or credit..... The seats in play. Call the bartender over
     
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    Not worth getting into a fight with pricks like that, even if they're physically smaller.
     
  17. imwired

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    unfortunately, after I told him about my conversation with the asshole, he got all worked up.....lesson to me
     
  18. hail2skins

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    The dude does sound like a prick, but in fairness, I think that if you are taking a seat next to one occupied by a stranger, its good form to ask the stranger whether the seat is taken, and not just assume that its up for grabs just because it is vacant or doesn't have other indicators of being occupied.

    And even if its a bar with VP games, one certainly is not required to play VP to sit at the bar.
     
  19. smartone

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    That's a very good point!
     
  20. Kickin

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    Wow that sounds like it escalated pretty far! I would've probably just given the guy the seat even before knowing it was next to his wife because its too minor of an issue to deal with. Similarly if I were in the other guy's shoes I couldn't imagine asking someone to get off a machine either. It just seems so unnecessarily demanding.

    But kudos to your husband for showing restraint when the guy said he would have kicked his ass. I have a short fuse for that kind of tough talk and would've made the guy prove it.
     
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