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Woman Claims She Won $8 miilion Jackpot--Casino Says No Way

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Chat' started by runningonthehub, Nov 8, 2015.

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  1. runningonthehub

    runningonthehub Low-Roller

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  2. WichitaMuskie

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    What's with all the odd pictures of Ms. Castillo included with the article?
     
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    that was my thought also.... it does not compute
     
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    they already gave her a suite, RFB and FP for another trip.

    that's about all she's gonna get.
     
  5. WichitaMuskie

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    So not only is she NOT getting $8 million, but the "compensation" provided by the casino is actually designed to extract additional money out of her. I think it's probably a fair offer by the casino, but it's still a real kick in the pants.
     
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    I hear about cases where declared wins on the machine is actually not a win. I wonder if it ever happens the other way when a declared loss (that hangs up the machine) is actually a jackpot win. I guess they could always say that even though the malfunction should have declared you a winner but didn't, is still a malfunction which voids pay.
     
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    Good luck getting a lawyer. If they don't win, they don't get paid. The first thing they will do is go to the casino and look at the machine, see what the available jackpot is. Then they will google other suits like this. Then they will turn her down. I would think there is a BIG bankroll opposing "winners" suits that she can't compete with.

    And her saying she only wants people to know how casinos operate? BS. She would absolutely take half the money over a confession.

    No way she's getting anything but a bill from any lawyer who would take it on.
     
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    Important part of the story confirms the amount was BOGUS. The number of people that responded to the article apparently can not read.


    This machine offers a maximum jackpot of $20,000 if a maximum bet is placed on all lines. The maximum jackpot that Ms. Castillo could have won based on the number of lines and credits she was betting is $6,000.
     
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    all machines have a tag on them that says "Malfunction voids all play"...my friend was playing at harrahs new orleans on a 25cent machine and no reels lined up but the machine stopped play and had jackpot in the digital ticket and to wait for an attendant...it was a malfuntion and they reset it

    being all computer based they can go in and check to see if it was or wasnt legit and basically shes lucky to get what they gave her
     
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    I found it really amusing reading some of the comments with the article. It is clear that most people have no idea how casino gambling works. Some people said the woman should sue, Some said the casino should give her 20k. Many people think the casino cheated the woman.
    The fact is the woman had nothing coming except maybe $80. But, you could the never convince the public of that because they think the casino is just. evil.
     
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    These are Class II slot machines. The pull electronic tickets, just like a pull tab with pay amounts per ticket. So based on the ticket pulled is the payout. It is a display error no doubt. She cannot win the case. NIce pics of her though.LOL
     
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    A lawyer will probably take the case. All these situation end up in court one way or another even though the evidence almost always backs the casino.
     
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    Here's a juxtaposition question. If the casino fails to payout a jackpot because of a perceived malfunction, should they also be required to research and refund money to player for a machine that malfunctions resulting in lower percentage of registered winning spins where a player should have received a win or a machine or should have theoretically jackpot-ed based on percentage of spins due to RNG errors.

    If malfunctions can occur that result in a displayed payout where no winning spin occurs, I would think the opposite could be true. The bottom line, does the casino take the same due diligence to look after player losses caused by malfunction. I am guessing the answer is no, and because that information would never be shared, the casino would pocket all casino wins due to a malfunction.
     
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    I am guessing they take the same due dilegence is somebody wins $10 or $20 by mistake.

    How in the world could they track this? Unless the machine was holding 100% week and after week after week.

    Generally speaking, the most a machine can screw you out of on EACH spin is the max bet allowed. The case in question paid out millions times the bet played. Not the same thing.

    Again, the entire thing is silly/stupid/ignorant. The max she could have won on her best day was $6,000. The machine would never do a 8 million win. Not possible. Ever. Never. Ever.
     
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    These are the same type of people that keep the casinos in business!
    Straight up IDIOT, mathematically-challenged people.
    I'd LOVE for something like that to happen to me! I'd obviously get pics, just for the laugh, but realize that it's an IMPOSSIBLE win, and ask for my original ticket (prior to the malfunction) and move on.
    On a similar note, I was playing buffalo once, and it malfunctioned (I was in the middle of a pretty good bonus; like $200) and the reels just kept spinning wildly, then it just kept repeating the payout...I realized it was a malfunction, and I was almost going to say...but then it "corrected" itself, and kept the bonus going...weird, but I ended up with like $236...
     
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    I agree, I wasn't try to debate the OP regarding the legitimacy of her claim. In regards to my hypothetical which brings up business ethics, the casinos more specifically the electronic games are required to have a playback history up to so many hands and we also know from player tracking systems record historic play. So should a casino desire to track this, they have the capability. What I am suggesting is that the casino is unfairly protected from EGD malfunctions where as the player is at a disadvantage. The restriction of recording devices in casinos where a player could document there case as well is restricted.
    Bottom line, ethically as a business I don't believe they look out for the players interest equally as the casino, and any game failure that results in a profit for the casino would never result in a refund to the player unless it went to the local gaming commission.
     
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    I live about an hour north of this casino and was just there last spring seeing Aaron Lewis in concert.

    Any lawyer that takes this case is a damn fool. What happens on the Reservation stays on the Reservation. The courts have no jurisdiction over them.

    One of the first and largest Tribal Casino's here in WA, The Muckleshoot Casino, partnered up with Harrah's (now CET). Harrah's was going to front the money, show them how to run it for 4 years and then take 10% of the gross for the 4 years. 18 months in the tribe had it figured out, 86'd Harrah's and sent them packing. Harrah's attempted to sue but no court would touch the case. Suing "sovereign nations" doesn't work to well.
     
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    Aside from the "reservation" situation described, it is beyond me why anyone would sue in the first place. They made it clear that the machine had a top payout of $20,000 with max coin in, or $6,000 with her coin in.

    Yea, maybe some lawyer could beat the casino until they gave in, but the max payout at that point would be the $6k.

    That machine was not capable of paying out $8m. Move along folks. Nothing to see here.
     
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    This woman is very smart to threaten legal action. Her goal is not to actually get the $8 million supposed jackpot from the malfunctioning machine. She's actually just trying to get a settlement from the casino in the neighborhood of thousands of dollars not to tie them up with more expensive legal fees to handle this situation. I would do the same thing in her position. Money is money.
     
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