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Will unrated BJ be interpreted as no or low play?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by domeboy, May 26, 2013.

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  1. domeboy

    domeboy VIP Whale

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    Over the last few years I have been mainly a slot player. On my next trip I am planning on starting to play BJ again. Since I havent played in awhile, my comfort level will be around $15 a hand. Since they won't rate at Mlife properties until at least $25/hand how will my play look in terms of my comp room (not through host) and future offers.

    I dont want to be in a position where I get accused of no play or low play.
     
  2. SH0CK

    SH0CK Stylin' and Profilin' Quasi Tech Admin

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    If they don't rate you, they will not have you down for any play at all as they will not be tracking anything.

    If you are going to play $15 already, you might as well bump it up to $25 anyway. You may not be able to play as long if you hit a losing streak, but at least your play will be rated.
     
  3. DJ Ran

    DJ Ran High-Roller

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    Unless you're a big time player betting hundreds a hand, I would not bother even showing your players card at a BJ table if you're only betting $15-$25 a hand. The rating system for comps sux. Play for the fun of it but you'll get more bang for your buck comp wise by playing slots.
     
  4. domeboy

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    I understand. It is just that I have comped rooms, and since a lot of my bankroll will go to BJ, I won't have a lot left for slots. I didn't go through a host; should I be concerned someone might say something about play level less than usual? I realize future offers will suffer.
     
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    No one will say anything. Sounds like you realize a zero play trip will impact future offers.
     
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    If you already getting comped rooms, just do what you regularly do. I would give them your card. They already know how you play and that way they will see that you are playing.
     
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    Just for the record, this isn't entirely true, and at the very least if you want to be rated, you should ask when you sit down at the table. There are a lot of threads on this, I think, but basically, it varies a fair amount from property to property, and sometimes even from pit boss to pit boss. I was at a table with people who got rated at $10/hand at Bellagio, I've been turned down at Mirage, and I even once had a pit boss proactively ask for my card at Mandalay Bay when playing $15/hand while taking a break from craps.

    As mentioned, though, even $25/hand won't get you all that much in terms of comps, especially compared to slots, and $15 likely won't get you anything.
     
  8. voltron12

    voltron12 Low-Roller

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    you could always play 2 hands at once at bj and if you play 2 hands at 15 per that is an average of 30 per. I know some casinos will make you play 25 min or double the table min if you play 2 hands, but if the casino is not packed or not on a weekend night, you might be able to do this to find a cheaper way to be rated over 25 per hand but bet betting 15 per hand actually.
     
  9. domeboy

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    I am not too worried about future Mlife offers since I am diamond at CET. If I ever decide to come back to Mlife it wont take long to get back in their good graces. I guess I will just play at the level I am comfortable with, and if they want to rate me, thats ok....and if they dont, thats ok also.

    My biggest concern was that there might be an awkward moment if someone asks why I didnt accumulate as many tier points as normal.
     
  10. tringlomane

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    I would just ask to be rated. If you are staying on property and they know you are there, I would think being rated poorly at blackjack is better than not being rated at all. Bigger gamblers should be able to answer this question better than me though. MLife (and even CET) laughs at my play level.
     
  11. h_upmann

    h_upmann Low-Roller

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    Possibly the worst advice I've ever heard.
     
  12. Nittany1

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    I wouldn't bother trying to get rated.
    $15 or even $25 is really not worth much in the comp world.
    Split your stake between slots and BJ and use your card at slots.
     
  13. Kickin

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    I don't understand these posts suggesting its not worth getting rated.

    I can understand someone doing that to avoid a low play day but the OP is staying at that casino so he'll just end up showing a no play day.

    If they're willing to rate you then you should get rated. A $15-$25 player may not get any material comps but who knows? He may play more than he expects and even at minimum it could knock something off his bill. Plus it'a still better than a no-play trip for future offers.

    Its like intentionally not giving your frequent flier number for a puddle jumper just because it doesnt add many miles. It doesn't take any effort to hand your card over either.
     
  14. thecarve

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    Couldn't agree more. A few bucks worth of EC's is better than nothing. Plus it at least shows the casino that you did play and didn't just book the room for your buddy.

    To the OP: if you didn't book through a host, you needn't worry about someone questioning your low play. Your future offers will suffer, but you already know that.
     
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  15. mike_m235

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    Some MGM properties will rate you at $15. Not the big boys, but NYNY, Excal, Monte Carlo.

    Not sure there's a big difference for room comps though from $15 to nothing.
     
  16. da1chifan

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    Ask to be rated regardless. I have NEVER been turned down to be rated ANYWHERE.

    More to the point, if a casino told me they were uninterested (by not rating) in my $10-$15 play, I would question why I wanted to play there anyway.
     
  17. LAV

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    Precisely!!! I think that some people let the experiences of a couple fo pit bosses or casinos determine what is truly MGM's policy.

    To my recollection, the only place that I have ever seen anything written was at Venetian a long time ago, saying that only play of $25 or above would get rated.

    I have seen dozens and dozens of acquaintances get rated at many MGM properties.

    I did not always play at the level I currently play. In fact, I had started off my play more at the MGM props when I was betting small. I was never refused when I gave my card, and when I checked at players club desk, my play showed. Granted, this has been awhile ago, but I do know of current people who get rated for $10 at bac tables at some of the MGM props, such as MC.

    I know some pit bosses would rather not rate low play, but those experiences should not say that it's corporate policy that a specific casino brand, i.e., MGM, does not rate for play under $25.
     
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