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Wild Nights Ahead

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Dynasty22, Dec 26, 2014.

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  1. Dynasty22

    Dynasty22 Low-Roller

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    Okay I'm sure my questions have been asked dozens of times on here but it's easier to ask for answers that are catered to my questions.
    I am taking my girlfriend (1st timer) out to Vegas the last week of July 2015.
    I wanted to get in contact with various hosts to see if my numbers from my home casino are good enough for any upfront comps.
    Currently my averages are around $200-$500 an hour for roughly 4-8 hours a day depending. Those numbers fluctate of course depending on how I am doing. I only play Blackjack I should add so those numbers are from that. All I am looking forward is food/beverage comps at some nicer places such as steak houses, sushi, etc and my room costs covered. Maybe some pool amenenties if possible but not necessary. It would be 4 nights 5 days total.
    I'm just wanting to know how I could about getting in contact with hosts and what properties I would be better off getting in contact with. And also if I am asking for too much please tell me or if I am low balling myself please let me know as well what else I should be asking or looking for.
    Any questions please let me know.

    Thank You!!!
     
  2. NickPapageorgio

    NickPapageorgio OG of the Sal Sagev Hotel

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    $200 to $500 per hour needs to be defined. If you are betting $400 per hand on tables, you are being reasonable in your expectations. What you are describing isn't computing however.

    Nick:beer:
     
  3. Dynasty22

    Dynasty22 Low-Roller

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    Sorry, yes that average bet per hand per hour lol.
     
  4. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    Nick is correct insofar as more information would help. But from what you have written I can suggest a couple things. First, if you are looking for upfront comps, your local play probably needs to be with CET or MGM. If your local play is with a company different from where you are seeking the upfront comp, the vegas hotel likely won't have any way to verify your play. And that means you're really only playing for a backend comp in July. But if you play $500 a hand at BJ for the hours each day you have stated, you are probably in good shape for the comps you are seeking (unless you're ordering $1000 bottles of wine with dinner!). The one comp I would question is what you mean by pool "amenities"? If you're talking about a cabana, $500 is not going to get you one at bigger Vegas properties. Not to mention, pool cabanas are usually held back for bigger, established players who may come in on shorter notice than your plan. Then again, if the "amenities" you're talking about is simply some fruity drinks with little umbrellas in it, you should have no problem comping those on the back end (umbrellas are always gratis :thumbsup:)
     
  5. Dynasty22

    Dynasty22 Low-Roller

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    Thank you thus far, the info definitely helps! It will be my gf's 1st time going out there so as any good bf, I wanted to show her theres so much more out there then just gambling. I know some people tend to troll on this site and ask ridiculous questions like what "kind of comps can I get with a million dollar bankroll" and blah blah blah. But my questions were honest and geniune. But I know I will definitely hit my average hand bet per hour no problem and it is higher if it's a good night obviously lol.
    I think what I will do is just book our flights online as planned, and just decide on a hotel then book with them through the phone. Then once in Vegas, I will gamble at there properties and charge everything to the room. I figure if for some reason not everything gets comped, I'll surely be able to get the majority.
    My gf and I are both in our mid 20s, we will go to a club together one night, and besides that we will gamble (I'll do my real gambling when she goes to bed), nice dinners, sight see, shop, hopefully catch a show or 2, definitely some pool time as we will be out there the last week of July.
    Do you guys have any suggestions on properties we should look into staying at? I am open to all input and if you still need more info I'll definitely be more then happy to add to it.
    Thanks!
     
  6. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    Too broad a question. Seems like you all want to take in everything. It would help to know which ones are your trop priorities. My recommendation would be either Mandalay Bay or Wynn. Both properties have gambling, excellent pools, and great food options. Wynn has more on property sightseeing and is somewhat better located for more sightseeing than MB. It also has more shopping both on property and nearby (Venetian shops and Fashion Show Mall). MB is less expensive and has the Foundation Room, which is always an impressive view for first time Vegas visitors. The comps at MB will also be easier to get on the back end than at Wynn.
     
  7. Dynasty22

    Dynasty22 Low-Roller

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    I would say the top priority would be comps. I don't intend to have to pay for the room at the end of the trip and possibly a little most food. A great pool is another priority. Restaurants isn't as important because I am ok with us taking a cab to the restaurant (as long as they were within the sister properties for comp purposes). Same thing with shopping, and clubs...we can just cab back and forth. But I would definltely like to be able to walk down the strip as long as we aren't too far off from the general area of the city center and the properties around the Flamingo location.
    A nice room with a great view would be imortant but I am hoping that during my gambling, they will take notice and will upgrade us rooms.

    So in conclusions lol, I would say a property that would give the the most offers for my gambling honestly.
     
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    In that case, sounds like you want a lower tier mid-strip property that is part of a chain (lower tier will give you the most bang for your comp bucks). I would check out Flamingo. It has a better pool than Ballys. You could also look at Bellagio or Caesars. Much better pools and, for that matter, everything else. Your level of play should have no problem covering the cost of a room. But if you want to leave more comps for dining and drinks, stick with Flamingo.
     
  9. PayTriple

    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    What is your bankroll for the trip? If it is more than $10,000 then I would open up a line of credit and contact a host BEFORE you go. You might as well try to negotiate ahead of time for a reasonable portion of any theo that you generate.

    As for properties, since you are in your 20's (I am perpetually in my 20's in spirit), try the independent properties such as the Cosmo and Hard Rock, they might try harder for your business.
    Have fun!
     
  10. Dynasty22

    Dynasty22 Low-Roller

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    So after talking to my gf last night she said that she didn't want to have the hotel room bar set high as it's her 1st time going out there. She didn't expect us to spend much time in the room as I told her a lot of alcohol and long days and nights will be a repeating theme of this trip. She was okay with a basic room but looked more forward to walking around, seeing shows, nice dinners, and the pool. So I'm thinking that though the Flamingo isn't a spectacular property, it's at the center to where we can walk to most places nearby. And I've stayed at the Flamingo before and there pool is good enough for what we are looking for, at least for this trip.
    I want to surprise her with some plans for the trip. 1st off - Who do I contact regarding a limo taking us from the airport to our hotel? What do the costs and duration typically run? Any feedback or recommendations is appreciated! 2nd - What shows do you recommend? We are very open minded and I am not worried about costs. Our trip will be the last week of July 2015. Anything special going on out there at that time?
    Also if I am hoping to get our room comped in the end, am I better off booking through the hotel so that they can comp me in the end? I figured I would need to do that rather then Priceline or those sites. Just looking for clarification. And also I don't want anyone to get it confused that I am gambling for the comps. I just feel that at my level I gamble, free rooms and some meals aren't out of the question :)
    Thanks!!!
     
  11. Gamesman

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    Where do you play now?

    I'd suggest contacting a host before you go. Be more clear about your intentions. Tell them that your plan is to bet $200-$500 per hand in BJ for 4+ hours per day.

    You should book through the hotel (or host) and a good host will contact you before you leave to discuss your play and comps.

    Make sure that your gf knows that you need to put in 4+ hours a day of gambling to get everything covered. Otherwise she may get upset that you want to gamble so much.

    I'd recommend Caesars, Harrahs, or PH. PH is a blast, has great restaurants, and lots of shopping if she likes that.
     
  12. mrem3200

    mrem3200 High-Roller

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    Doesn't it almost have to be? With a bet of $500 (and it know that is at the high end of his estimate) there is no assurance that a $10k bankroll is enough for 4+ hours for 4 nights. That could easily be gone 2 hours into night 1. Even at $200 a hand $10k is not all that much.
     
  13. PayTriple

    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    I never assume things, which is why I asked.
     
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    You are right, 10k can go quickly if it's a bad run at 500 min. It's only 20 betting units.

    I think the OPs best bet is to call a host and wire in the money or set up a credit line. Discuss upfront room comp and expected theo required. With out play history, I can't see them giving upfront food credit.

    Likely the Food and expenses charged to the room will be reviewed by the host prior to check out to clear charges. ( if you generated enough theo)
    Just pick a hotel you like, I'd try cosmo or Planet Hollywood for what your describing. Call the player card desk and ask to speak with a host on duty or Google linked in for one.
     
  15. Viskorix

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    How about the Mirage? Mlife seems to reward tables better then CET, the location is center strip, and the rooms are nice. They are mid-tier for Mlife and probably a decent place to start to see how the comps go. Just my two cents.
     
  16. oakbluff

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    I would also concur with the Mirage being a good option that would cover off most of your and the GF's needs - very nice pool area as well. I'm mostly play BJ and VP (at BJ levels less than you are expecting to play) and have always been treated very well there. I know my action would get next to nothing at the Bellagio for example, but Mirage seems to appreciate my relatively low roller business.
     
  17. Dynasty22

    Dynasty22 Low-Roller

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    Appreciate the input and advice from everyone. I was able to get in touch with Hunter and we talked for a while on the phone and we were able to reach a happy median :)
     
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