Hope you don't mind me bringing your comments here marksind and salukidean, I didn't want to derail the other threads. But they are good points. I've read in 2 different threads tonight about changes at the 4 Queen's. Marksind mentioned in his update - "The Four Queens still has some of the better VP choices, but their floor drinks are awful (juice glasses) and beer selection very tiny. One night we were at the Vanguard Lounge on East Fremont and started talking with a couple next to us at the bar. He works at the Chicago Brewing Company at the Four Queens, so I asked him why the place seems to be slipping. He said the owner over extended himself buying a bunch of local bar/casino properties around town that pretty much haven't panned out. Comps have been cut (as many of us have noticed), and maintenance has suffered. The next evening when we were playing there we heard some angry guests complaining that the elevators weren't working and they were having to walk five flights up to their rooms." And then I read another thread where someone was asking if any hotels in Vegas give discounts for going without daily maid cleaning. Salukidean mentioned this - "Four Queens just started this. You get $10 per day food/beverage credit each day that you go without service. Has to be used each day though....you can not let it accumulate and use it all at once." Many of us here have been watching the 4Q barely maintain itself lately. I'm not posting to pick on 4Q...it's been our home base for many years. But this doesn't sound good to me. I don't really think they have room to cut back on maintenance and housekeeping.