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What resort fees actually offer good value?

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by notfromconcentrate, Mar 14, 2016.

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  1. notfromconcentrate

    notfromconcentrate Low-Roller

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    While the vast majority of resort fees are sucker-charge rip offs as far as I'm concerned, the diplomatic mindset in me can't help but consider that there may actually be value in resort fees. Most hotels will "play up" this charge by saying it includes things that most hotels would include (such as boarding pass printing - whoopee..., wifi, local calls, and fitness center access). We all know that's just PR lip service to make people feel better about having to pay it.

    Having said that, however... are there any Vegas properties that offer amenities/benefits of actual value in their resort fee? I've noticed that the Cosmopolitan gives free access to the tennis courts. What else is noteworthy?
     
  2. Sonya

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    Not that many. I was really surprised when I did the resort fee list how many hotels were listing their "amenities offered" as:
    Wireless Internet (1 device)
    Local and 800# calls
    Fitness Center

    There are a few that offer a coupon book, or discounts on food or drinks. But my personal favorite is Super 8's "Free truck/bus parking". Yeah, that's useful for most of us. :haha: But hey, at least they give you free breakfast in the hotel lobby.
     
  3. HoyaHeel

    HoyaHeel Grammar Police & Admin

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    I'm going to a conference in Orlando in May. Staying at a "resort" hotel and forced to pay the resort fees, which include "free" shuttle to Disney. Which I can't use because I'LL BE IN MEETINGS ALL DAY because I'm there on a group rate for a conference. Oy. (however, I imagine if I were in Orlando to go to Disney, the shuttle would be a nice inclusion)
     
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    Will give them a try!
  5. Nevyn

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    The answer is really nothing, simply because the resort fee is just a different way of charging for the room. Almost no resorts who have gone over to resort fees added new amenities when they did so. They just listed amenities that the resort already had and said the fee covered it. The way you tell that the line is utter nonsense is the properties with exclusive floors, rooms, suites, etc which come with amenities like separate check-ins, limos, and/or lounges with food and drink tend to charge the exact same resort fee as the main hotel proper ... it is just the room rate that is jacked up.

    I would say the best one is the free strip/airport shuttles for off strip places, but again, those are in the hotel's interest in terms of attracting bookings, and would be there without the fee. A couple places I think have Keurigs, if that's your thing.
     
  6. ken2v

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    This is a loaded question, of course.

    If gym access is included, it would otherwise be a charge, and you are inclined to use the gym, there's value. If not, no value.

    WiFi otherwise would cost, and you use it, value. If not, no value.

    Hoya's shuttle service doesn't work for her, it might for others (but that's not Vegas).

    Some day soon Big Brother will force a one-price-save-taxes-covers-all policy and ... the overall price to the consumer will be the same and we still will be "paying" for things we might not use. Kinda like folks who never avail themselves of pools or maid service. I do look forward to flat-rate pricing and the brief bit of time it will save me in calculating vacay costs.
     
  7. Snidely

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    I just look at the bottom line. Total cost vs what I get. It's a math fallacy to look at a resort fee and think it has value or not. The hotel is simply manipulating your thoughts and their books with line item charges.
     
  8. Kolmeseiska

    Kolmeseiska Low-Roller

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    Absolutely spot on this post. I'm actually surprised that there are a massive load of people who cannot seem to understand this.
     
  9. hammie

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    I just read an article about a Monroe Muffler shop running a special $14.99 oil change, but there was a $34.99 fee disclosed on the coupon in small print for disposal of oil and filter, shop supplies, maintenence.

    The resort fee nonsense is one of the reasons I like to rent timeshares and condos, taxes and fees are well disclosed before I buy.
     
  10. ken2v

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    Personally, I think it is folly to nuke one category summarily, just because. Or if doing so, why wouldn't that be private rentals? I see a nightly rate but then I have to pay for cleaning separately? And the money goes hard when? And how big is the down? And the no-penatly cancellation period ends 7/14/30 days in advance of arrival? For most of these things you're reading through line items or other disclosures, and some of the limitations can be quite damning, particularly cancellation. For those with limited means or credit capability, significant or full downs can be a getaway killer, too.

    We do a lot of mix/match vacations, hotel/resort one part, VRBO or similar private rental another. We need to span an upcoming stay between a resort-fee-levying resort and one that does not, and have opted for a private rental in the middle, for instance.

    I say bully to anyone who can and does say "no resort fees" and books elsewhere. But if that were to cost us more time or money, or more importantly lessen the stay experience, we won't take that sword.
     
  11. Krh2o

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    All the strip properties resort fees offer good value. They allow me to stay at world class resorts in a great tourist destination for under $200 a night including resort fee. They also allow someone the option to stay at a lower level place for the cost of a holiday inn express in the suburbs. That's a better value then swapping any coupon for $5 match play.
     
  12. tex55

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    None. It increases the profit margin for the casino.
     
  13. Krh2o

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    You think if they didn't have resort fees you would pay less per night??
     
  14. gilly from philly

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    It really is a loaded question, with the OP seemingly already having his/her mind made up that they are all ripoffs. However the answer to the question is, it depends on your needs. Although I have yet to pay a resort fee, as it is included with the room comp, I can see it not being a bad deal for my wife. She owns her own buisness, and is really never on "vacation". She would have to pay for the wifi anyway if it was not included.
     
  15. leo21

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    If you are asking from a value perspective, the cheapest ones are the best value considering that they offer the same core amenities. The trade off is that those cheaper fees are going to be at off strip resorts. However, you also have to take into account the number of devices the fee covers as well. I think CET maxes it at two while most competitors don't. Their $29 and $32 fees aren't as good of a value compared to the other "resorts" at those rates.

    Also, I don't think that this is an unfair question. By deciding to break popular amenities off into another fee, one of the pitfalls the hotels have exposed themselves to people questioning if they are getting a good return for the cost of the fee. There is a limit to how high these fees can go if there are no new bells and whistles coming back in return.
     
  16. breanna61

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    I'm in the minority where resort fees are concerned. Last year at Cosmo, I paid resort fees on my comped suites there. This most recent offer, resort fee is covered. If I can enjoy a terrace suite overlooking the Bellagio fountains for the price of a resort fee, I'm happy.

    I stayed comped at Paris for 2 nights in December and had to pay the resort fee. While I wouldn't rush back as the rooms are in desperate need of updating, again....I had internet (a must for me) and a premium view. I couldn't stay at a "No Tell Motel" anywhere for that price.

    A room in Vegas, even with resort fees factored in, at mid tier properties is cheaper than a Holiday Inn room anywhere.
     
  17. wernerw

    wernerw Low-Roller

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    Since it was mentioned:
    The free boyd shuttle to the strip is a good val.... Oh wait.... everybody can use it for free.

    Forget about my post.
     
  18. eksantirik

    eksantirik Low-Roller

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    Nowadays, given free wifi is very wide-spread around Las Vegas casinos and bars/restaurants, there is only one good value left of the resort fee: complimentary bottled water.

    But, that's not provided by all hotels, that's not spring water, and that's a freaking tiny bottle. So the best amenity of the resort fee is worth under a dollar, and you pay about $30 for it!
     
  19. Its Only Money

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    I have no issue with them either. I'm going to pay for the in-room wifi if I have to. I stay at Aria typically and they have a very nice fitness facility. These two things are worth the resort fee that I pay. I guess since I have paid resorts fees at other places before Vegas started charging them I have less of an issue with them too.
     
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  20. Kolmeseiska

    Kolmeseiska Low-Roller

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    Could someone who has been going to Vegas steadily for a long time jump in and answer this. I've always thought that the resort fee is just an artificial way of making the room rate appear lower. Meaning that $70 room rate + $30 RF would've been just a flat $100 room during the era when resort fees weren't around. Of course you just can't look at numbers from 10 years ago and say that the price has dropped/raised this much due to the economy, inflation etc.

    So question to those who've seen everything, how do you think the rates have developed from the days when there were no RFs? Do you feel as if the RF raised the rates, kept them pretty much the same or even drop them? I have honestly always thought that room rate is always pretty much the same value wise but since there's so many people who actually think they are paying for amenities in a form of a resort fee, it makes me wonder if I've been wrong all along.
     
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