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Well, Here's The Ultimate Resort Fee Question

Discussion in 'LV Strip Hotels & Casinos' started by VegasGroove, Dec 2, 2014.

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  1. VegasGroove

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    There is much ado about the talk of resort fees, raising resort fees, what the heck does resort fees cover, boycott of Vegas because of resort fees, resort fees at high end and low end properties, etc.

    Let's lay it on the line folks and here is the ultimate question:

    Would this make you stop coming to Vegas?

    Me? Heck no. :evillaugh
     
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    We are figuring this may be our last year (2015).
     
  3. gilly from philly

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    I have yet to pay a resort fee on a comped room, so I couldn't care less about the resort fees.


    Now if they ever start charging me a fee, my tune may change.
     
  4. mrstealth

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    no, never! (Even though I don't have to pay them anyway)
     
  5. DaiLun

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    Exactly my sentiments!!!
     
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  6. Rodent Pack

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    Hasn't stopped us yet. I use the fitness center, so I figure that into the resort fee charge. Probably the biggest reason I'm not too bothered by these is factoring in the parking costs of staying in some of the other cities we've visited...S.F., Seattle and San Diego. All of these have far exceeded the resort fee charged in Vegas.
     
  7. dmr

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    The thing is, if people were absolutely opposed to paying resort fees and refused to pay them, they would disappear overnight!

    People are paying them.
     
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    I'll be the first to say I often fall into a "Vegas mentality".......I don't think twice about winning $800 bucks on a slots and swiftly recycling that through the machines in 2 hours, but ask me to pay a resort fee and my initial response is to re-coil in horror over $25 and figure I should write a letter and some heads are gonna roll over that one. That was my initial thought, but with further reflection, I don't feel that way anymore. If my play is high enough, it will get comped or my RC's will pay for it.

    I think the Vegas issue is that 25 years ago, there was no other place to gamble....you had to go to Vegas. Now casino's are everywhere. The decline of gambling may have started with the recession, but I think the new reality, mostly for those working within a budget, is how much are you willing to pay to walk in the door to get the Vegas experience when you can likely just drive 20 minutes to a local and play the same style machines or tables given airfare and hotel costs. Vegas is losing those clients that would prefer the extra $1000 to go to BR at the local and is starting to see only more of the clients that are willing to pay the $$ for the same gaming but in the Vegas experience.

    It would be interesting to see what would happen if Vegas were to just do free rooms to anyone for a week and see what would happen to gambling revenue.

    I myself, still want the Vegas experience, so am okay with paying what's needed to get it. But, I understand many can't, and for that, it's unfortunate for both the guests and hotels. I think Vegas is just trying to find their way in the new climate of getting/keeping clients when they aren't the monopoly on gaming anymore.
     
  9. REELmoneySlotFan

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    As an overseas traveller, yes did could actually change the way we look at Vegas as a tourist destination. We really love going to Vegas but coming from Europe we're not going to Vegas for 3 or 4 nights. Our minimum is 8 nights so the resort fees can ad up to $250. Air fare has been crazy for quite a while. Let's say you come from Holland (like us), you travel as a couple and you're staying in Vegas for 8 nights (at an average of $100 a night, resort fees included) the trip alone will cost you around $2600 just for air fare and hotel room. Then you'll need money for food, drinks, shopping, gambling and/or shows. Let's calculate conservatively and budget $200 a day (for us $200 a day wouldn't be enough by far. We budget $500 a day). That's an additional $1600.

    So an 8 day trip to Vegas will easily cost $4000 for a European couple. For that money Europeans can have at least two 10-day trips to some 5 star all-inclusive resort and relax at the beach while drinking cocktails all day. So in short: Yes this will eventually effect the number of people going to Vegas. For some, it just won't be worth it anymore. Only 15% of all visitors are first time visitors. Returning visitors from out of the country will at some point decide "enough is enough" and lose interest.

    We come back because all of our nights are comped through Mlife offers and MyVegas and because we simply love Vegas. But not everbody from overseas is willing to spend twice or triple the amount they usually spend on a vacation to see Vegas for the second or third time. Vegas has to be careful not to aim at the domestic market too much, that can turn out to be a costly move in time....
     
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    I have been going to Las Vegas since 1995. I have only had a room comped once and that was about 15 years ago.
    I do not gamble enough to get anything comped. So for me, a four night stay costs me an extra $100.00. What do I get for that?
    I do not need a visit to spa or gym in Vegas. I do not need free local calls. I do not need a newspaper. If you give me free internet, give me something I can use. Don't force me to pay for a faster internet when the internet is included in the resort fee.
    Give me something that I can use and I can accept resort fees. But, don't just change me something that does not benefit me.
    Being retired and on a fixed income, resort fees will determine if I go to Vegas in the future.. I have been more than enough times, I do not feel any need to take my money to Las Vegas anymore.
     
  11. brit2vegas

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    Resort fees are never going to be popular with guests, it just feels like a sneaky way to charge more for your room. We have comped rooms for our next trip, but the resort fees alone add up to more than $250 + tax so the "FREE ROOMS" ain't so free anymore. Don't get me wrong, it's still 10 nights cheap accommodation, and we love Vegas enough that we won't think twice about it, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
     
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    I have never paid a resort fee in Las Vegas .because of comped rooms, but I have paid them in several other cities. It is not just a Vegas thing.
     
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    Its getting to the point were its getting to much for me Vegas is the only place i have been that charges a resort fee

    I dont use any of the stuff covered by the fees and what pisses me off the most is when they say the fees include the pool and yet theres no discount when the hotel pool is closed in the winter months
     
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    Very well put! I think most rational people would agree with you. The type of folks who think having an organized ban on buying gasoline day will lower pump prices or that resort-fees will bring Las Vegas to its knees will not.
     
  15. waverunner

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    I feel your frustration at Vegas in having to pay for charges that you will never use, however, there are ways out of that. Most people will also never use the "perks" in resort fees including myself. But you can still enjoy Vegas for 4 or 5 nights by compromising, offsetting, and/or eliminating some of the things that, in the long run, you don't need.

    You can sign up for Social Rewards or MyVegas rewards online to pay for the resort fee charge (in my case, i paid for the fees using my rewards benefits, about $125. You can book an MGM or CET hotel on the Strip cheaper Sun-Fri, you can book Gold Coast or Orleans off Strip and still use the shuttles to spend most of your time on Strip. You can stay Downtown and pay less but still use the Duece to get you to/from the Strip with a pass.

    Just taking the resort fees literally (about $100 @ 4 nights), you can eliminate one or two shows, or refrain from shopping, or eating dinner at off Strip locations for a couple of nights. There are many ways to offset the extra charges you don't need or use and still enjoy Vegas.
    I also don't gamble much, about 5 or 6 hours per day, but the last few years i only gambled at CET (although i still spend a lot of time at non CET hotels to get the full benefit of Vegas). Maybe if you do only gambled at CET, MGM, or off Strip properties like i do and get comped for 4 or 5 nights.
    Maybe stay at a "lesser" hotel at MGM like Excalibur or Luxor, or at CET maybe Harrah's or Flamingo and then use the $20 trick to upgrade.

    The point is life is a compromise. I had a stroke a couple of years ago, i almost died, i can't drive to Vegas anymore and i can't do some things as easily as i used to or never will do, but when i got better, i never hesitated on going back to Vegas. I don't keep going back to Vegas because of gambling, i can do that here in SoCal, and i don't go to Vegas to drink booze or dance the night away, or see shows, or shop. you can do all those things at or near your home town...............but as i said, Vegas can be compromised. They give me some things like free rooms and free rewards through SR, and i give Vegas less, a lot less, than i used to. If your gambling budget is, let's say $1000 for 4 nights, cut back a little per night and do something else. I don't gamble before 5 or 6, until after dinner. I peruse the Strip as much as i can before i settle down for gambling, and even then i am not a heavy gambler, really, just a light gambler, just enough to get comped rooms at CET even though i'm Gold. I am paying less to stay and play in Vegas than i was in the 80's. There is a category in here called "Frugal", mostly pertains to food, but i am frugal in Vegas for all things. I save as much money in Vegas as i can but still stay on the Strip (i stayed at PHO just 10 days ago and back in August), because i compromised with my room choice and in return the clerk gave me a high room floor (36th) free just like my room. So i didn't need a Strip view, just a high floor, and my view was incredible. So you can still enjoy Vegas like you always have been since 1995, resort fees or not. Vegas should be enjoyed from an entertainment perspective, like you have been and i have, and you still have the ability to spend your dollars the way you want to in Vegas.Vegas is a gamble for you but also for them as well.

    Good luck to you whatever you decide.
     
  16. CubsBrian

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    $25.00 per night in resort fees to stay at Caesars? Comp room, I'm use to paying 300-500 per night in Hawaii and WDW I'll never complain about 25 a night.
     
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    Nope. Honestly, it's just confusing and makes me do math. But I'm not opposed to the prices. But I will say, even though I go 5+ times a year, it gets me EVERYTIME. "oh my rate is $49!!" then you realize later you really paid about $100 a night for your room haha. I guess I do like seeing that low number, I think I maybe would be more apprehensive if I actually saw $100 up there instead of $49... Ultimately, Vegas is a costly vacation due to gambling. You spend a lot of money. I don't think $50 here or there is going to really change my trip. Either I can afford to go, or I can't.
     
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    Is it any different then car dealers charging freight, PDI and admin fee. This add $1500 to the price of any new car

    Same as the airlines, paying for baggage, printed tickets, and seat selection etc

    Just a way of advertising a lower price
     
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    Been going to Vegas since 1992; have had my rooms comped (for the most part) since about 2000. I am over 55 and go to Vegas strictly to gamble ( in other words, not the ideal customer for the current casino management). For me, the resort fees are a big deal; I am used to free rooms ( spoiled I know!). I can either accept it or not go to Vegas. For now, I accept it and adjust. I will have shorter trips, fewer trips per year, and spend less on meals. I looked at staying at a non-casino property off the Strip, but I think it would be similar to staying in Hometown, USA.

    Until another Vegas comes along, we are stuck with these fees.
     
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    I agree we been going to vegas since 1992 and we go for a week to 10 days so that is extra money that we dont use time people understand they are scrwing us with fees most dont use.They should include stuff that most vacationrs use or have people pick the options they want.
     
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