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Vegas Trip #33: Downtown Low-Rolling: Coupon Runs, Craps, and VP

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  1. Morpheus7272

    Morpheus7272 Low-Roller

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    My Trip Report

    Vegas 33: Great Music, Hot Dice, Couponing Bliss, and the Start of a Sad Divorce

    Part One: Three Nights at the Four Queens, With a Side of Spandex

    As with most things on this trip, our initial travel day was a bit different. Normally, DG (dear girlfriend) and I fly in to Vegas during the day, in the hope of checking in early and enjoying as full a day of fun as we can. For this trip, Southwest changed the timing of their nonstop flight from Albany. We were scheduled to leave at almost 6 PM, with a Vegas arrival of 8:35 PM. After a 30-minute delay, we were off on our adventure.

    Our pilot pedaled faster than usual on our journey, and after a glorious view of the illuminated Strip, we landed in Paradise early. A slight delay in deboarding, however, made it impossible to catch the WAX bus to downtown. No worries, though, since McCarran Airport has the greatest baggage claim area anywhere. DG and I settled in to admire the many show billboards and watch the promo videos for the different shows on the big screen. After enjoying that for a couple loops, we trundled down the zero level to grab the next WAX for downtown. The trip was quick and easy, and check-in at the Four Queens was painless. After dropping our luggage in our room and pausing to admire our view of pipes, air conditioners, and the Fremont canopy (can’t win ‘em all), we proceeded to Magnolia’s for our customary first dinner – prime rib with all the fixings.

    To be sure, there are many better prime rib dinners in Vegas, but for the price, we’ve always found the hunk of meat and sides at Magnolia’s to be excellent. This meal would be no different, as the prime rib was tender and flavorful. With nearly nine hours between meals, our slabs of cow stood no chance, and we left the café stuffed and happy. Use of the ACG coupon brought our meal total to under $20, and we charged the remainder to the room to be later comped off. We hit Fremont Street to check out the craziness, and we were not disappointed.

    It was Saturday night, and the joint was jumpin’. Even after 32 trips, I’ll never get tired of the sensory assault that is Vegas. Our first stop was the small gift store next to Glitter Gulch to grab a tallboy and get the drinking started. DG found cheap travel mugs that we brought so that we could comply with at least some of the new drinking laws downtown (it hurts me to type that, for sure), and we became lawbreakers immediately by pouring our beer into the two mugs! The shame of it all! Think of the children! It felt oddly exciting, like that time I chased a mouthful of Pop Rocks with some Diet Coke – but this time without any lingering gastric distress. In the distance, we heard crunchy guitar and falsetto lyrics, two certain signs of a good time. On the Main Street Stage was the band Spandex Nation, and we knew we had found our place for the night.

    Say what you will about the “hair metal” of the Eighties, but it’s the music DG and I grew up with, and we still love it today. While drinking our illegally-opened beers, we enjoyed the hits from Whitesnake, Def Leppard, Motley Crue, and many others. After making sure my stretchy pants were tight in all the right places, I proceeded to rock out along with the other forty-somethings in the crowd. Further trips to the little bodega kept the drinks flowing and the laws breaking! Rest assured, we didn’t break our hips, but we did have a great time! The band played until two AM, five o’clock to us. So much for sleep after our travel day! Undeterred, we headed up to the “Vintage Vegas” section of the D casino to see if the Sigma Derby was up and running. As it had been broken for most of the week, we did not have high hopes, but the sound of fake horses fake-running around a fake track was music to my ears! Alas, the crowd wasn’t very fun at 2:30 AM, so we finally bailed to get some rest.

    (A technical note: Gambling totals are for me only, as DG doesn’t keep close track of numbers.)

    GAMBLING TOTAL: -7 (Sigma Derby)

    Our first full day began with sunshine and a good breakfast at Magnolia’s. DG and I do our best to eat healthy in the morning at home, so the indulgent meal of pancakes, bacon (for me), and sausage (for her) made us both happy! Proceeding to the casino, we found our favorite machines unoccupied and settled in for a few hours of gambling fun. We had $200 in freeplay on my card, so we split it up. DG nabbed two penny royals but eventually lost her Franklin, while I treaded water for the day. I hit nothing exciting but managed to cash out with my hundred intact. After a shade under $5000 coin-in, we were satisfied with our play for the day and headed out for the downtown portion of our coupon run.

    Our run started at the Plaza. The boothling let us turn in ACG $5 freeplay coupons for both the Las Vegas Club and Plaza, which I turned into $14. As above, freeplay totals are for me only, though I did keep track of how many matchplays we won and lost. Two quick losses on craps cost us our $10 LVA matchplays (W0, L2) and we were off. Thankfully, our luck would change greatly regarding matchplays. Splitting the $5 ACG matchplays at the Las Vegas Club netted me $2.50 (W1, L3) and we hit the Golden Gate. Visiting the club desk, we got a pair of oversize (pretty cool-looking) $25 MP chips for our LVA coupons, but the clerk wouldn’t let us use the ACG new-member ones (never hurts to try). At the craps table, I made an offhand remark about putting one MP on pass and one on don’t pass, and the boxman allowed it. Midnight stayed away on the come-out and guaranteed us each a $12.50 profit (W2, L4). Binion’s was up next, and my $10 LVA freeplay turned into $9 profit. Back at the 4 Queens, I turned in my ACG double-points coupon for 500 extra points (NOTE: you get the points for cashback, but they don’t bump up your comp total under the new system). The $10 LVA freeplay then netted me $9.

    The venerable El Cortez was next, and when we walked in the side entrance, DG noticed that the place smelled markedly better. Now, I’ve never minded the unique smell of the Sweaty Spaniard, but that mix of smoke, beer, vomit, and desperation has always bothered her. I can’t imagine why! She was okay with staying a bit, which turned out to be a good thing. The LVA $10 freeplay added $7 to my wallet, and then we played a favorite slot, Kingpin Bowling, for a while. Back in the day (2006 or 2007), the El Cortez funbooks were more widely available, and we turned a $5 freeplay coupon into $135 in this machine, after about five hours of play. Sadly, the machine wasn’t as kind this time and we cashed out with a small loss (-4). On the way out, we passed a $5 craps table and I got a good feeling. Buying in for $40, I was almost busted after two bad shooters, but then things started heating up. The next shooter rolled a while, and I won a few place bets along the way. After him, the next shooter was gold, hitting number after number. Since I play the pass line and several come bets, I had all the numbers covered at one point. DG also had an excellent roll, and the only bad shooter on that lap around the table was yours truly. I colored up to a black and a green for a nice $85 profit. At the Downtown Grand, we split our $25 MPs for a $12.50 profit for me (W3, L5), and the $5 LVA freeplay padded my bankroll by $4.

    After the downtown run, we purchased our 15-day bus passes at Walgreen’s downtown and then hit the Strip. It was late enough so that the hotels were lit up, and we walked from Encore down to Planet Hollywood, enjoying the warmth of the evening and the welcome lack of work stress and responsibility. Crossing the Boulevard, we claimed our spot outside Bellagio to watch a couple hours of fountain shows. We became tired early, though, and caught the SDX downtown around 11PM to call it a night. The loudness of Fremont didn’t bother us as we drifted off to sleep quickly.

    GAMBLING TOTAL: +$241.50 (+100 4Q VP (on freeplay), +60.50 DT Coupon Run, +85 Craps, -4 Slots)

    As Monday dawned, we finally felt rested after a good night’s sleep. A quick breakfast at the Main Street Station buffet (after gaining 250 points each) thanks to the ACG coupon filled us up, and it was back to the machines at the Four Queens. It seemed as if the day would be a losing one. I was down about $40 when The Cooler walked up. The Cooler could have been named The Complainer, and really should have been working for the casino. As soon as Mr. B*tcher started to play, he started talking non-stop about how he knew the machines, and we shouldn’t be playing at all because the only chance we’d have to win would be to find “the only game and denomination that was paying on the machine.” Only he was qualified to do that, so we were doomed to losing. He fed ten Franklins into his machine and began to search around the machine for that elusive paying game. While searching, he lost. And lost. And lost some more. While losing, he told us about gaffed machines at the El Cortez, and how Kenny Epstein has personally destroyed the place. Playing $62.50 a pull, he didn’t find his unicorn on the machine and cashed out down $325. In the meantime, my machine was feeling the chill and I was tanking right along with him. When he left, I switched to his frozen machine and started heating it up. Dealt straights and full houses on 50-play added to my bankroll, and the capper came with a dealt straight flush worth $125.

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    I cashed out ahead $120 on a bit over $5700 coin-in. I looked around for The Cooler to tell him the good news about his machine – I had found his unicorn – but he was long gone, presumably to educate more wayward gamblers while losing more of his ass along the way.

    After Sunday’s long coupon run, DG wanted a break from the pace, so we hit the Strip for a nice walk. With a Walgreen’s every five feet on the Strip, we stayed well-hydrated with Dos Equis and walked from Encore to Planet Hollywood and back. We stopped at a Tix4Tonight booth and scored a 25% off voucher for Hugo’s Cellar for only $6. We generally do Hugo’s every trip, so we got a reservation for 5PM that day. After getting dressed up and ready, we were seated at Hugo’s with the first wave, and we enjoyed an excellent meal. DG’s chicken was wonderful, my scallops divine, and the service was impeccable as always. After a memorable ninety minutes, we waddled back upstairs, stuffed, to change into regular garb. On the way out, I grabbed my cashback, which came to $47. I checked on my comp balance, and between comps and cashback, all the food for the trip thus far would be covered with a bit of cash left over. Good news. A long stretch at the Bellagio Fountains made for a great finish to a nice day.

    GAMBLING TOTAL: +$167 (+120 4Q VP, +47 cashback)

    Part Two: Three Nights at Main Street Station: It’s Not Me, It’s You

    Saint Patrick’s Day was also moving day. Fortunately, the excellent staffs at the Four Queens and Main Street Station made this very easy. Comps were applied to the 4Q bill, and I checked out in a flash. The luggage roll down Fremont was a pain, but seeing the façade of Main Street Station made us forget our burdens. At the check-in desk, we were told that (because we are such VIPs, obviously) our room would be ready at about 11:30. Fair enough, since we were going to eat and play some anyway. A visit to the player’s club got us two buffets – they said DG had some comp available on her card we didn’t know about, so hey, good for us. After a good breakfast, we settled in at the bar for 9/6 Jacks and bloody marys with Oleg. Unfortunately, the quads stayed away and I lost $40 before claiming my room (1201) for the next three nights. Room 1201 is a smoking room, and it did smell a bit dingy after the first night, but we were okay with it – not spending all day waiting to check in is more important to us.

    Now, a bit about this stay at Main Street. We were comped 2 of 3 here, but after booking the trip, we noticed that room nights were cut starting in April, dropping us to what is presumably the lowest tier of offers (20% off). This was the start of what will probably be a sad divorce from Main Street after twelve years. I haven’t decided if I’ll “pay to stay”, but it’ll be hard to do that if other places keep up with the comp nights. With that in mind, DG and I just played as we felt like it rather than trying to keep an average. In a sense, it was nice, but it will suck for us not to stay at our favorite place. According to staff, a new marketing manager was brought on board and is responsible for the cuts. I really would like to write a letter to someone over his/her head about the idiotic decision to mess with their best customers. Since I’ve never had a quarter royal there, I’ve never come close to a winning year at MSS. I’ve lost several hundred a year in exchange for a couple hundred worth of rooms. Hey, math genius marketing guy, that’s in YOUR favor. And I’m *fine* with it. Well, this time, we cut our play, and we didn’t lose much at all. Enjoy that. Okay, rant over, and back to the TR.

    After dropping luggage, we settled in for another (short) session, this time at my favorite Treasure Chest machines. Nothing was happening on those though, and I booked another $40 loss before moving back to the bar. This was indicative of the session.

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    Bar machine #3 was more pleasant than machine #1 (sorry Joe), giving up two quads (7s and 9s) and a $52 profit.

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    We spent the rest of the afternoon outside, enjoying the St. Patrick’s Day atmosphere and the craziness of Fremont. The D events center hosted a firefighter competition, and since a team from FDNY was there, we had someone to cheer for. Lots of drinking, sunshine, and silliness made for a great time. After the competition, it was time for round two of Spandex Nation, which was a total blast. We saw many of the same people from Saturday, so we made some quick friends bonding over hair metal. A highlight of the trip, for sure. Dinner that night was the Mirage buffet thanks to myVegas. This buffet has certainly slipped a bit – they got rid of the “salad creation specialist” and the “Asian soup engineer”, and they replaced a lot of the high-dollar food in the back with beverage stations. Definitely cutting costs across the board. The new pasta station was reminiscent of Mandalay Bay and was solid, but overall, this buffet has dropped a couple notches. A trip back to Fremont afterwards allowed us to enjoy some late-night music before crashing out for the night.

    GAMBLING TOTAL: -$28 (+12 9/6 Jacks, -40 Treasure Chest)

    Wednesday dawned with that feeling of foreboding – the trip was more than half over, and those thoughts about going back to real life started to creep in. Putting those aside, we opted for a quick bite at McDonald’s, since the main meal for the day was to be the Bellagio lunch buffet. After our light breakfast (if anything at the house of Ronald can be considered light), we once again hit the Boar’s Head Bar for more substantive play. I once again had a good session, hitting three quads (Ks, Ks, 7s) and cashing out $41 to the good. Since I wasn’t playing for average, I quit and banked my profit.

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    Near misses:

    (This first one was particularly painful)

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    After grabbing a couple of the elusive $25 Cosmo freeplays from a fellow trader, we headed down to Bellagio to enjoy some fine chow. At the myVegas desk, we were able to get line passes with our free food, and they proved helpful. Talking to a Jersey transplant helped pass the few minutes’ wait, and then it was on. It seemed that, compared to last year, there was less gourmet food on offer, which was better for me. Ribs, mini Reubens, sliders, pasta with chicken and Alfredo, California rolls, and numerous desserts were consumed with gusto. No vegetables were harmed.

    After our exercise in gustatory excess, we hit Flamingo Road for the second major coupon run of the trip. Since we were starting late, we decided to go eastbound first, to get Ellis out of the way in daylight. Tuscany was our first stop, and as always, we encountered friendly people and a beautiful but dead casino. The $10 ACG freeplay added $9 to my pocket, while we split the $10 ACG matchplays (+5, W4, L6). At Ellis, the two $10 freeplays resulted in a gain of only $5, since I wanted to play some quick quads. On the plus side, we hit both of our Ellis $5 ACG matchplays, for a nice $10 score (W6, L6). On a whim, we stopped into the Westin MAX (old Casuarina) casino to see if we could get something for being new signups. As it turned out, we got $10 MPs, and we won both of them, resulting in $20 profit for me. (W8, L6). I did play $5 on the roulette wheel after our wins, since back-to-back 28s came up and I was hoping for a third. Not to be. Picking up the 202 westbound, it was a quick two stops to the Gold Coast, where I got $15 from my $10 LVA freeplay and $20 profit when we split our four $10 MPs and played a bit of craps. During this craps run, DG did her best Ah-nold impression and terminated a guy who had about $1200 in greens and was playing the don’t against her! ("Where did he go? He had to split!") In fact, she rolled great all week. (W10, L8) Heading across Flamingo to the Palms, we kept winning, hitting 3 of 4 $10 MPs. I played a couple extra bets and left with a $30 profit. (W13, L9) A quick shuttle ride to the Orleans led to our next stop on the run. Playing the two $10 freeplays added $16 to my bankroll, and then we hit all four of our $10 MPs for a $40 profit. The last craps table gave me a good feeling, so I kept playing, hoping for a bigger score. This led to the best craps session of the trip. Starting with the $20 I bought in for to do the MPs, four good shooters (DG included) allowed me to run my rack up to $167 before coloring up, for a nice $147 total profit. (W17, L9). By this time, we were beat and headed back downtown. We made some baseball and golf futures bets at the Plaza and called it a night.

    GAMBLING TOTAL: +$314 (+107 Craps, +41 9/6 Jacks, +166 Flamingo Coupon Run)

    Thursday was our last full day, and we once again had the Main Street Station buffet for breakfast. We knew we’d be enjoying the Mandalay Bay buffet (thanks, myVegas) for dinner, so we loaded up and didn’t worry about lunch. A quick stop at the Plaza netted $10 profit on our two remaining $5 freeplays. I was a bit concerned that our mailers from the D would run out, and our favorite D bartender Roy was working at the Vue bar, so it was a no-brainer to focus our play there for the day. Playing for several hours, I snagged six quads (some shown below) and finished up with only a $30 loss on a total of $3780 coin-in.

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    Near miss:

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    Using the ACG bonus freeplay coupon gained me $35 in extra freeplay on top of the $25 freeplay from the March mailer, and I turned that into $51 profit. We also had three $25 matchplays to use (2 LVA and one from the mailer), and we hit 2 out of 3, for a profit of $37.50. (W19, L10) Since craps was going well on the trip, I stayed at the table, and a couple good shooters netted me an extra $71 profit. It was my third black chip of the trip. The Mandalay Bay buffet was excellent as usual, and then it was on to MGM for a nice long session of Sigma Derby.

    The session started out poorly, with me missing out on a 53-1 shot. My friend texted me to let me know he was coming over. Jimbo plays in many big poker tournaments, and he was in town for the Venetian tournament the next day. We used to work together, and we have talked about hanging out in Vegas together for a long time. I was so glad we finally made it happen! Even better, he was up for betting on some plastic horses. We had lots of fun and laughs and I was even on a 95-1 shot that came in. Alas, the 200-1 longshot didn’t hit, and I would up with a $20 loss on the ponies. After Jimbo left for the Aria, DG and I hit the Cosmo to play our $25 freeplays. Playing 10 hands on 100-play penny VP, I wound up with a $26 profit, covering my horse losses. After dragging our profits from the Cosmo, we hopped on the Deuce back downtown and got some rest before our last day.

    GAMBLING TOTAL: +$145.50 (+71 Craps, +51 Freeplay, -30 D VP, -20 Sigma Derby, +73.50 Coupons)

    During the middle five days of the trip, the gambling went very well. Unfortunately, the other shoe was due to drop, and on Friday, it did exactly that. After one last Main Street breakfast, our traditional last craps session at the Cal was at a choppy table, and I took a quick $50 loss. I should have known that the worm had turned, but I wanted to get in one last session on Treasure Chest. In that session, I hit one quad (6s) for 140 coins, but a loss of $60 caused me to end the session.

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    Even my go-to machine #3 at the Boar’s Head Bar treated me badly, with no quads and a $40 loss. Some near misses:

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    One last MP at Las Vegas Club on the pass line ended in a point-seven out and a $5 loss. (W19, L11) After walking around Fremont a bit, we hopped on the WAX of shame and headed out of town. An uneventful flight brought us back to Albany and a 55 degree temperature swing. Yippee.

    GAMBLING TOTAL: -$155 (-50 Craps, -60 Treasure Chest VP, -40 9/6 Jacks, -5 Coupons)

    Overall Thoughts:

    Positives: Great food and great company. I don't think we paid for a meal on the trip, which is a plus. It was great to see our friends at the D, 4Q and MSS. The fun of Fremont can't be beat -- our feelings now are that the Strip is fun to look at, but it's way out of our price range. Downtown is where it's at for us, with better prices and more fun people and craziness to laugh at. Even with casinos all over the country, there's nothing like settling in for some VP or craps with some drinks, knowing that your room in close by and there won't be driving involved. Coupon runs make it fun for us as well.

    Negatives: Six nights is too short a trip for us. With our pace, we'd like a couple days to chill out by the pool and just walk around, seeing what we can find. It's also sad that buffets, even at the higher-end places, are cutting costs in sneaky ways.

    The trip was great, though the pace was hectic due to being a few nights shorter than our normal trips. Couponing is work, but it’s enjoyable and certainly worth it for us. We finished 19-11 on 30 matchplays, and I earned about $295 on my coupon runs, with DG earning a comparable amount.

    Overall, I was ahead about $678 on gambling, with coupons, cashback, and freeplay figured in, making this my best trip that doesn’t contain a quarter royal. Hopefully, I’ll return this year!

    (And a shout out to Tringlomane for help regarding posting pics....thanks!)
     
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  2. Morpheus7272

    Morpheus7272 Low-Roller

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    Hmmm, I guess my first shot at embedding pics didn't work. Anyone feel like helping me out with how to fix this? The pics are in a folder on my profile page.
     
  3. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Check your PM box.

    Nice report!!
     
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    Ditto my wife. Absolutely drives me crazy.

    After each session I meticulously enter the wins/losses into my smartphone while she watches with this "Does it really matter?" look on her face. And she doesn't understand the "Yes it does... there are people who read my trip reports that depend on the information."
     
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    Porkchop Low-Roller

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    Very nice writeup. Will check it out again, when pics are figured out. :)
     
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  7. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Ironically I think my gf got dealt that exact straight flush on pennies too (only 9 lines though :() But the next straight flush she got was a nickel royal at least. :)
     
  8. Joe

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    Excellent read! I also sent you a PM on whom to complain to about MSS.
     
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    Thanks for the well written report. I was right there with you on the coupon runs. My wife and I do the same thing only we rent a car. Don't drink like I used to. You had a helluva run going until the other shoe dropped. Still a great trip.
     
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    End of a trip a get a "ballpark" number from my wife. It doesn't really matter since we share all funds, but I wish she would keep closer track.
     
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    You sir, are a sterling example of control. One I should emulate.
    (But probably won't.) :haha:
    Slow playing Jacks or Better.
    I really should try it.

    Great coupon run, great economical trip!
    Thanks for sharing.
     
  12. Royal Flusher

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    Nice report, sorry to see that the lower MSS offers seem to be catching everyone. Question for you though...

    At the Four Queens, you say you charged meals to your room to be comped off later. Did they use the comp dollars generated on your card for that?

    Why wouldn't you have just used comp dollars at the time to cover the meal?

    Where I'm going with this is... would it be possible to have a host comp meals that you've charged to your room without taking the comp dollars off your card, leaving those for some other gastronomic adventure.
     
  13. dewey089

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    I can't answer the host part of the question.
    However, if you use a coupon for a two for one meal at Magnolia's, they will not let us pay for it using comp dollars. Charging it to the room allows us to us to use the coupon and still use comp dollars to pay for the meal.
     
  14. Morpheus7272

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    Hey Flusher,

    Dewey answered the first part of your question below.

    As far as a host comping off later, I don't have a concrete answer. I would assume that if you're a large enough player, a host could help out, but I think the motivation behind the change to "cash and comp" is to stop a lot of this. That being said, I have gotten hosts to comp a meal for me, but that was years ago. I'm assuming the best answer here is "probably not, with a side of YMMV."

    Dave
     
  15. Morpheus7272

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    Hi Bonnie,

    I wasn't slow-playing per se, as my sessions were still at least 1-2 hours in length, sometimes more. It was more of tightening up the loss limit and win goal. If I was getting crushed, I was happy to get up and leave, which I suppose we should do anyway. And if I was winning and gave a bunch back, then I was happy to quit while ahead.

    Dave
     
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    Thanks for the great Downtown trip report. DH and I are downtown dwellers as well for the same reasons you are. Reading this made me feel like we were right along with you.

    Now the hard part is waiting until October for us to enjoy it in person.
     
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    Thanks for the report. I have only spent one night downtown and have one coming in on my June trip. I keep thinking about migrating down there for more of my stays actually. You sound like me with the coupon run, except I do not have the LVA and am unsure it would be worthwhile to buy.
     
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  18. Morpheus7272

    Morpheus7272 Low-Roller

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    This year, it's worth it for sure. 3 $25 MPs.
     
  19. AzSteve

    AzSteve Tourist

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    Just curious. At Four Queen's you seem to be concerned on playing $5K per day. What does that buy you in terms of room comps and free slot play?
     
  20. Morpheus7272

    Morpheus7272 Low-Roller

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    It's generally 3 nights, and most months, it's $80 free play. Some months I get lucky and get $200 free play.
     
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