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Vegas Musings: Moving On, Wanting Better, Etc.

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by VegasGroove, Mar 7, 2013.

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  1. VegasGroove

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    I am a seasoned Vegas veteran, long-“suffering” from this wonderful addiction I pride myself on knowing the lay of the valley and consider myself “home” when I hit town. My three trips per year affords me some good times and great memories.

    That said, I also know that even Vegas veterans can learn new lessons. We know when it is time to move on from one thing to another, be it another slot club, another restaurant or another property. Most times, these moves are made because we want a better atmosphere, a smoother vibe, a tastier plate or just a change of scenery.

    The good thing about this is Vegas caters to all tastes and desires. That’s always been the beauty of this kooky town! So . . . . since I am home now from my most recent trip two weeks ago and I have gotten over my “back-from-Vegas-blues”, this old dog has found:

    1. As much as I love the Orleans, I must bid it adieu. Orleans has been my home property since 2004, but I have been thinking about moving for the last couple years. The “element” has encroached on the property and I do not like it. I am not easily shaken, but I had an elevator moment one evening and it clinched my decision. I am currently looking at Suncoast to stay within Boyd or the Silverton, which I always visit.

    2. I will continue to spend 90% of my time at properties in outlying areas of the valley because of incidents like the car chase/shooting on Flamingo Road. Yes, I was in town while that fiasco happened. Yet another indication of an influx of the “element” that comes to town.

    3. I applaud the culinary cornucopia that can be found in most strip properties, but there are so many hidden-gem eateries in the outlying areas that please my palate. And the prices for these dishes are not neon-inflated. Renting a car opens up great options east and west of Las Vegas Boulevard.

    In conclusion, I have questions for you: the more seasoned you become with each Vegas trip, do you find your tastes change? Do you long for a better property? Do you get more adventurous to explore?
     
  2. bubbakitty

    bubbakitty native Texan; born and bred.

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    I too am a Boyd customer and have been for years. With the sale of that debt accruing albatross on the Strip, I am hoping for more financially stable years ahead. I have too seen "the element" but have not confronted it nor interacted with it other than to share a gambling table or restaurant.

    I like the Orleans as its proximity to the strip and the "elements" found there is quite practical. It has afforded me an unbelieveably good relationship with a host(ess) that provides for all my reasonable needs. This is probably my reason for staying with the Orleans although leaving the Boyd group is really not a thought being entertained at this time or in the near future.

    I agree with you as to the exploration and discovery of hidden gems both east and west of the strip certainly unbeknownst to the fly in-cab to the hotel-cab to the airport-fly out tourist. Pinball Hall of Fame, the Omlete House, Red Rock Casino and RR Canyon; the M, Southpoint and other outlying casinos. However, one must be aware of the possible presence the "element" will persist in exhibiting while traveling (although not just in Las Vegas).

    I am sorry for your misfortune but will attempt to carry-on at the Orleans and hope for less interaction than you've apparently had to address. Such instances however do not dissuade adventuring and exploration; at least at this time and age.
     
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  3. Joe Strummer

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    In recent years I've found - I really don't care "to do more".
    I just wanna flop in a pool - drink my craft beers +
    blast away at my VP machine....watch a ballgame.
    It's the little things I can't get time to do at home.
    I take my wife to the movies in Vegas - ? - because we NEVER
    have that chance at home.
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    I'm TIRED....from my RAT RACE.......I want to RELAX.
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    I don't travel far for eating....a short walk to eat somewhere.
    I change properties often but still have my "home" property.
    I stay a week - so I split hotels....gives me two different
    vacation vibes.
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    In my first decade of Vegas Vacation --
    I'd do everything.....at any hour.....little sleep.....hustle here + there.
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  4. billduhcat

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    I've been hitting off-Strip, non-downtown properties the past few visits, Orleans, M Resort, Red Rock, etc. I find it difficult to have non-guilty thoughts gambling at table games > $5 + crappy VP pay tables, and the off-strip places are obviously way better at that than on-Strip.

    Still love staying on the Strip though and having all of the choices for food, sightseeing, bars, etc, even though I only take advantage of a fraction of it all:rolleyes2:
     
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  5. Jinx

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    I find there are trips I like some of the comforts of the same things and others I want to do more or different things. It varies on what that means though, whether I want to stay at the same hotel regularly, or play in the same spots. I do try and do something new each trip, as it helps me determine what I might want to do more regularly next trip.
     
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    The more I go the more I feel the need to try something different (place to eat or game to play) to enhance the experience and avoid getting in a rut.
     
  7. Busyman

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    What is "the element"?

    Also how has Vegas changed from before besides the obvious?
     
  8. Terry Benedict

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    I'm not there yet. I don't necessarily have a home hotel because I haven't stayed at as many as I want to. I go once/twice a year, so I have less opportunities as others. Every time I go, I tell myself I only want to eat at restuarants I haven't been to. I haven't accomplished that goal yet, it is fun to try.

    So my trips, as far as wanting something new, I do it as much as possible anyway.
     
  9. travloh

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    I also am curious as to what you mean by "the element". When I say "the element"I know what I mean, but I am curious as to your meaning. Don't pull punches and don't mince words.........
     
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  10. LucyR.

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    The new element on the strip

    I am guessing that VegasGroove means that times have changed with the type of people that are going to Vegas.

    On March 3rd I did notice that there are some mean people on the strip. It was scary for me for the first time going to Vegas as a solo senior person walking around the strip at night time. I did notice a lot more security people at the hotels and on the streets.

    I noticed 6 police officers right in front of Ballys. There was a shooting there recently and it is located near the Flamingo rd. car accident.

    I was walking near the Planet Hollywood hotel when all of a sudden I heard a loud man's screaming voice. I ran for protection towards two large men for protection. I stood by them until I felt safe again.

    I used to have fun going to the "Fashion Mall" located across from the Treasure
    Island Hotel. I felt safe during the day. But it was 7p.m. when all of a sudden it got almost empty of people and I got harassed by desperate sales people selling those creams for the face. I ran outside and noticed the outside area was almost empty of people walking around. I ran to the bus stop and got on the first bus to get back to my hotel. I decided to never go out on my own to the Fashion Mall at night or walk the strip at night either.

    Since I have a vision and depth perception problem I always need help to get off the bus. I fell one time getting off the bus. So now I ask for help from strangers. Some people pass me up and others do help me. "Whew"...

    The hotels I have been staying at have been really nice and also helpful.

    I know which hotels to stay away from because some attract gang members.
    I am not allowed to tell you all which hotels to stay away from because it is against the rules to slam hotels on this website. LucyR.
     
  11. tringlomane

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    Lucy gets it. "the element" = troublemakers. It's a problem everywhere, not just Vegas. I would much rather be on the Vegas strip than downtown St. Louis. A block away from the Strip...eh, it's a toss-up between Vegas and St. Louis.
     
  12. Busyman

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    Gang members? You are allowed to say what you saw and where. Come on.

    Plus everyone has their own version of what "the element" is. The fact that it needed quotation is a bit weird tho' but no big deal.

    I'm actually surprised that people are just recently hearing or seeing crime in a metro area. I'm from and live in a metro area and have been to other metro areas numerous times.

    Crime is not new and it's odd that people think this is. Sometimes the people you encounter, the bad people, are the luck of the draw but that's part of life.

    I see people like that, I cross the street. I avoid.

    Vegas didn't just come up with crime. It was born from crime. Lol.
     
  13. ClownHo

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    the element is an ugly Honda SUV.
     
  14. Busyman

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    Gotcha, so troublemakers are new to Las Vegas? LMAO

    I'd like to hear the folks that said it (in the beginning of the thread) what "the element" is.

    I know mine....

    My trip a month ago, I'm in a lounge in Cosmo (I think Queue Bar) and there are 3 troublemakers in the middle at the tall table. 2 guys are kissing on one female. The one guy throws up in his hand and gets some on the carpet. We were sitting talking with a Cuban couple and they were grossed along with us.

    Anyway the one geeky looking fella and female are dancing around like idiots and he basically tackles her on the carpet. The female is laughing tho' and the other guy in the blazer is laughing along with them.

    Anyway, the night progresses and you see the female tough kiss the guy with the blazer. My understanding is that they all know each from work....this was a work trip.

    The geeky guy seeing that he struck out goes and tries to sit with large group of folk. In doing so, he knocks the drink out of one of the females hands and it spills on her and her friend. Two of the guys (one big black guy) in the party start pushing the guy away and the black guy shoves him down into a couch away from that group.

    I had been talking to the security guy there and immediately got him out onto the floor before the geeky guy got pummeled. He got rid of him. At this point, the now couple were already gone.

    Geek - 0 Blazer guy - "won"

    Anyway, the security thanks me for saving him paperwork, buys us the rest of our drinks and the night progresses.

    Before closing, we see some security in red blazers walk from left to right with the geeky guy. They have both arms, he's off his feet on his way to getting thrown out of Cosmo.

    "the element" screwing up everyone's night (but providing some entertainment)

    Sadly, I doubt this is new to Las Vegas in 2013. It helps to not be clueless.
     
  15. Busyman

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    That was a damned good one! LOL
     
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