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UTH at CET for COMPS

Discussion in 'Comps' started by PensiveGerbil, Oct 26, 2012.

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  1. PensiveGerbil

    PensiveGerbil Tourist

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    Can anyone shed light on how CET properties may reward Ultimate Texas Hold'em play? It seems to me like it could be a relatively efficient pathway to earning Total Rewards comps. With skilled play, the house edge is approximately 1.15% of your initial Ante and Blind bets [the "Trips" bet is optional and has a higher HE]. However, the key word here is "SKILLED." Based on what I've seen at my local casino, most players make numerous errors which greatly multiply the HE. Therefore, it seems like I may be able to play with a 1.15% HE and get rewarded as though I were playing a game with a much higher HE. Do CET casinos differ much in how they reward UTH and other table games play?

    Do the casinos attempt to assess and record the skillfulness of UTH players' decisions? It seems like a more difficult undertaking than assessing craps or blackjack skill.
     
  2. CaptainJack

    CaptainJack Low-Roller

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    CET is notorious for not awarding table games players in RC's the same way they reward machine players who are risking similar amounts per hour or per bet. At one time, I spent a lot of time playing Three Card Poker...the game had a 3.5% house edge. I used to play $100 per bet. That meant my average wager per hand was over $200. I'd play for 7-8 hrs at a time. Typically I'd earn under 2000 RC's for my play. The times when I'd earn more is when I'd have big losses for a session.

    Typically casinos don't judge a player's comps based on their skill at a game, nor do they set the theoretical house edge to be the precise minimum house edge a player can play the game. I'd suspect they rate UTH at a higher theo than 1.15%, but they also know that UTH has fewer hands per hour than BJ, so the difference comes out in the wash.
     
  3. PensiveGerbil

    PensiveGerbil Tourist

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    I have read that the casinos assess the skill of BJ players, but perhaps this is not true. I doubt they try to assess the skillfulness of UTH play.

    When I played craps, I received RC's whose value was close to 10% of my theoretical loss. It seems you got less than 2%. Did you curse out the dealers?:nono: ;) RC's do not interest me as much as special offers for comped rooms with food credit and free play.

    I believe the house yield (upon which comps may be based) for UTH is much higher than for Three Card Poker, even though the house edge with skilled play is much lower.
     
  4. CaptainJack

    CaptainJack Low-Roller

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    Uh, ok...then why did you even ask the questions if you are sure it is otherwise?

    Best of luck to you.
     
  5. y2mulder

    y2mulder Low-Roller

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    I am going to bottom line this whole thing.

    If you can find a pit critter who knows the optimal strategy to play UTH, or any other carnival game, I will give you $1,000. Those games are garbage tables, that they will only look at if a big payout heads out. Much better things to pay attention too, like.......everything else in the casino but an Ultimate Hold 'em table.

    Critter swipes your card on those games, enters a bet, then walks away until he sees you are gone. Period.
     
  6. PensiveGerbil

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    I don't know what you think I'm sure about. I was hoping someone could report how many TR credits (tier or RC) they received for playing UTH for a given length of time with a given average bet size.

    Regarding the house yield or "hold" for UTH, I did speak with an employee of a corporation that banks the game in California casinos who claimed the house wins about 20% of the money players bet. If true, that would be higher than slot machines. In the brief time I spent observing, I saw players make terrible mistakes, including agreeing to play hands blindly so they could bet on more than one hand at a time!:rolleyes2: :peace:
     
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