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Using play to help lift a ban (serious, probably dumb question)

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Jk1, Feb 5, 2016.

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  1. Jk1

    Jk1 Tourist

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    So a friend of mine got in a bit of trouble in Vegas during our January trip! His plan is to make it back in March for the tourney and expects to use his play at a casino to try to lift a ban received at all MGM properties (he was read the trespassing statue after getting caught with party favors in the bathroom of Hak). His play was pretty significant (relative) - average bet around at $100+ for 12+ hrs/weekend playing mostly baccarat, BJ, craps. Out of total curiosity - see the note in the title - is this incredibly dumb? I'm concerned that he'll get ID'd and risk getting kicked out (or worse) before he racks up that much play, without having to expose to a host his "rap sheet". At the same time, I also would like to not have to avoid all MGM properties with the guy and that while it seems to me like a ridiculous idea, I'm not sure the alternative other than to hope they don't actively look to boot degens from their properties.

    At the least, I hope this read was a bit of entertainment. At the most, maybe some good advice will come from this!

    Cheers
     
  2. 6Mermaids

    6Mermaids Low-Roller

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    LOL- people really get in trouble for that? I have seen the signs in the bathrooms but I didn't think they were really looking for that. My partying days are over but I didn't realize Vegas actually cared about such a thing.

    I average the same if not more per hand as your friend and usually stay at the MGM- that isn't a lot of money. I really don't think you have anything to worry about. If you are really worried, just don't give them your player's card. No one cares about $100 bets. No one is going to ask for ID. No one will remember you. I am sure they see it all night, every night.

    I have had to step over more ecstasy kids walking back to my room. I think that is what security is looking for. People that are just way too gone in the hallways.
     
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  3. Jk1

    Jk1 Tourist

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    Believe me - I'm equally shocked. Walked out of the property and read a trespassing statute! I always forget that my quarter bets don't keep the casinos afloat and that $100 hands are common bottom limits at the major casinos on weekends.
     
  4. 6Mermaids

    6Mermaids Low-Roller

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    Did they photograph him? Take down his information?
     
  5. Jk1

    Jk1 Tourist

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    I was told they snapped a pic and took down his information - even asked if he was staying at an MGM property.
     
  6. VegasDave

    VegasDave Addicted

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    On the other side of this, may be a terrible idea. Would calling them and apologizing and asking for privileges back be a bad idea? I also didn't realize they actually looked for this sort of thing, or enforced it so hardcore. Good tip lol
     
  7. firstkill

    firstkill High-Roller

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    hanging out/eating/drinking clubbing wont be an issue. but I wouldn't take a chance playing rated.
    my friends have been kicked out of properties before for club related issues. We have all gone back, but they just don't gamble there.
    I doubt the are sophisticated enough to bar him gambling from all mlife properties.
     
  8. NickPapageorgio

    NickPapageorgio OG of the Sal Sagev Hotel

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    It doesn't take much sophistication. Very little technology needed when players cards are involved. Now, banning him from all properties via facial rec.... Not likely.

    Nick:beer:
     
  9. LV_Bound

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    A quick test would be for him to walk through Aria.
    Based on a show a year or so ago they have camera on all access points and check out all people.
    If he can walk through and not get stopped he should be ok. :wink2:

    If it were me, my concern is with winning a HUGE amount and when cashing out they say "Hey, you were banned." and keep all the money.
     
  10. Scottndindy

    Scottndindy Low-Roller

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    Even if his bets were multiple thousands per hand they would not care. 100/hand means nothing to them. If he puts his players card into anything or gets asked for an ID anywhere that it gets scanned he will be kicked out. If he plays a slot and hits a jackpot he will forfeit any wins. He won't be able to gamble rated.
     
  11. MrBBonz

    MrBBonz Low-Roller

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    As mentioned, I would try calling them and getting it fixed that way. If you have a host, they may be able to help as well. If they were serious about the ban, I wouldn't spend any time or money there.
     
  12. Franken Dean

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    I would bet he is fine.

    If he was pulled into a security room and they filed a report, or called the cops, a different story. I worked security at a horse race track and for minor offeses like this we would remove them from the grounds and read them a similar," you are banned from the park note". It was more a scare tactic, as we would see them back in a week. We watched them, but were told not to create a scene. He needs to not get drunk, or obnoxious, though. The casinos do not want to lose incomes from minor incidents, and if a stupid act causes the friends and family of the counter party to not go to MGM property. They could lose revenues and repeat customers.
     
  13. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Okay, maybe everyone knows what this means, but at least one of us (me) does not know what "party favors" are.
     
  14. Fligster

    Fligster High-Roller

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    I assume drugs.
     
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  15. 6Mermaids

    6Mermaids Low-Roller

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    And he needs to keep his nose clean!
     
  16. C0usineddie

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    I would just play like nothing happened. Its just a scare tactic. Call their bluff and he will be fine.

    I got kicked out of a couple of casinos forcibly like in the movies and went back the next day like nothing happened and they didnt say a word. Even recognized the guys who tossed me and said hi.
     
  17. Franken Dean

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    Lol.
     
  18. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    If you decide to go this route, then do not try to call in and clear it up. Once you call, you are fully identified.

    I might agree that the incident might have been a scare. You never know at what level you have been identified.
     
  19. MrBBonz

    MrBBonz Low-Roller

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    I was "kicked" out of a local place for being to drunk one time, they really just walked me to my room and said I cant gamble for 6 hours.
     
  20. Gamesman

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    They don't look for it. But if it's obvious, they have to do something about it.

    As already stated, $100 a hand is nothing to them. But if he has a host, I think that he should contact his host and see if he'll book a room. Make no mention of being banned. If the host books a room, he's good.
     
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