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Using a Friend's Mlife Card

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Naturaleight, Mar 1, 2016.

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  1. Naturaleight

    Naturaleight High-Roller

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    My friend has freeplay on his card he forgot to redeem last trip. I'm going out to Vegas and he wants to know if I will take his card and play the freeplay and give him the cash I win off it. What if I hit a jackpot? I'm assuming this is in the grey area. Can I get in trouble for using someone else's card? If I got a hand pay I would just say "oh I'm using my friends card" but would I get in any trouble from the slot attendants? How does MGM view someone who uses their friend's Mlife card?
     
  2. Kolmeseiska

    Kolmeseiska Low-Roller

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    I don't think they care whose card you're using but using another player's freeplay might be tricky. I recommend playing penny slots with like 40 cents a spin so that the chances of hitting a handpay are virtually zero.
     
  3. LVHooked

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    If you hit a hand pay, pull the card and hand them your's with your id. A buddy and I switch off free play on occasion.
     
  4. sabre

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    If they check the machine history they can see whose card was in during the winning spin.

    Play $.25 non progressive single line video poker. No chance at a W2G.
     
  5. LVHooked

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    They don't care, and what's the odds it's even going to be an issue.
     
  6. spdandpwr

    spdandpwr Low-Roller

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    If they didn't ID the cardholders, I'd so do this but they ID me every time at the tables...I'd love to get the extra points.

    I know you inferred slots because of the free play...but still.
     
  7. Kolmeseiska

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    That depends highly on the machine, the amount of free play and the wager. If it's 50 bucks, chances are slim, but at $20 a pop going through $1000, might be different.
     
  8. sabre

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    Don't know. Why don't you ask the guys in PA who were charged with a crime for redeeming freeplay on other players' cards.

    Common sense says to avoid scrutiny while doing something shady like this. Removing all chances of a W2G lends itself well to this goal.
     
  9. Rush

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    That was hardly the same. Those guys STOLE. This person is doing a friend a favor.

    OP.....I would just play for non-taxable amounts on VP.
     
  10. LVHooked

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    How much free play we talking about here anyway? So we know how much time you might spend in the Nevada pen . lol
     
  11. Rush

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    I've used my wife's card every single time I've been to Las Vegas without her. It keeps her active and getting mailers. At the local casino, I will take her card and play her promo play. Easy peasy.
     
  12. kicknit987

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    Hopefully enough to pay his bail lol... Just kidding - I don't think it'd be a problem either unless you hit a huge jackpot
     
  13. Peachiekeehn

    Peachiekeehn High-Roller

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    I read on another forum that it doesn't matter whose card is in the machine, if you hit a jackpot the W2G will be in your name. Every handpay I've had they've just taken my card out of the machine and handed it to me so they can put their card in to put the machine back into service.
     
  14. Kolmeseiska

    Kolmeseiska Low-Roller

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    The problem is using another player's freeplay, not who's going to pay taxes. Here's something that I found from mlife website:

    Except as permitted by these Terms and Conditions, a member may not transfer, sell, purchase, trade or barter an M life Card, M life account, points, complimentaries ("comps"), Express Comps™, Tier Credits, or any membership benefit to another individual. Violators of this rule are subject to termination of M life Program membership and forfeiture of accumulated points, Tier Credits and/or benefits, and may be liable for damages and litigation costs, including any Program attorneys’ fees incurred in enforcing


    Violation of the Terms and Conditions of the M life Program, including fraud, misrepresentation, misuse of M life Card to manipulate accumulation of benefits or misuse of FREEPLAY and/or Express Comps by a member, or other improper conduct as determined by management, or if the member has been barred from the property(ies) by the management for business reasons that management determines are appropriate, may subject the member, without limitation, to termination of M life Program membership, demotion of the member’s account status, forfeiture of all of the member's benefits, including accumulated points, Tier Credits, tier level benefits, FREEPLAY and/or Express Comps and/or appropriate administrative and/or legal action by MGM or applicable governmental authorities. In addition, MGM reserves the right to take appropriate legal action to recover damages, including its attorneys’ fees incurred in prosecuting or defending any lawsuit related thereto.
     
  15. Rush

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    Who has time to worry about that? I would love to see them sue me because I used my wife's card to use $15 dollars of free play. LOL!
     
  16. Kolmeseiska

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    Would you also like if they refused to pay you, say $5,000, if you happened to win a jackpot on your wife's freeplay? I wasn't saying there will be a problem using someone else's card, but problems could arise if a jackpot is won, they would have zero obligation to pay you. Just saying...
     
  17. Rush

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    It will never happen. Mostly because I don't play at that level on free play. Secondly, those people simply DO NOT CARE about whose card is in the machine. They have a dull job, and like most people in dull jobs, they just want to go get a drink.
     
  18. LVHooked

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    Ding ding ding........we have a winner.
    Until the OP posts how much free play were talking about here its point less. If it's 1k and he's in the hi limit room pulling on $50 slots it will not be a problem.
    Sure anything could happen, you could get your face eaten by a bath salts smoking cab driver.....but what's the odds.
     
  19. Kolmeseiska

    Kolmeseiska Low-Roller

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    I'm not saying it'll be a problem or that someone cares. I'm just merely pointing out that if you hit a jackpot on someone else's FP, there's a good chance you'll be screwed. I already posted that the person should play low stakes to eliminate the tiny chance of how it's possible to have a problem. That's all.

    But like said, depends really on how much FP we're talking about here.
     
  20. Rush

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    I would like to hear of just one person this has ever happened to. That's all I'm saying. I believe it is a 100% non-issue, rather than a good chance or that person being screwed.
     
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