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Tropicana Comps

Discussion in 'Comps' started by fireguye8, Jul 3, 2013.

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  1. fireguye8

    fireguye8 Tourist

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    Hey guys. Quick question. I am heading to Las Vegas last minute the 7th through the 10th. I did a forum search and could not find any great info on this. I am BJ player at $100-125 per hand. I am considering staying at the Tropicana.

    Just trying to find out what type of room that average would normally comp out at. I am speaking with a host tomorrow about booking the room based on offers from other properties.

    What room should I expect at the $100-125 range. Hoping for more than a standard room. Thanks!
     
  2. paperposter

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    do you have any history with them,have you played there before if not nothing they will say will review your play at the end of the trip and what we feel in warrented we will comp.
     
  3. fireguye8

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    No history with them. No prior play with them. I spoke with a host briefly today on his way out the door. He is calling me tomorrow at 1:00. He has said no problem with the room comp up front for all three nights. Calling to firm up the room tomorrow.

    I Was curious what other members on this board at that level (100-125) per hand were getting as far as room type.
     
  4. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    why would you bother at the trop with that level of play? you can easily get a room comp at much nicer establishments.
     
  5. fireguye8

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    Just looking to try something different. I can get standard rooms at that level at lots of other properties. I was hoping to score one of the larger suites and a little change is always welcome.
     
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    I can understand that, but I don't think you're going to get a large suite comped upfront off the street with no play history. so you're basically going to get a standard room that's much worse than the standard room you could have gotten elsewhere.
     
  7. mike_m235

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    I get offered free rooms at the Trop regularly. I played there exactly once, for maybe an hour. I was playing $1 VP, so I probably put $3000 through. Doesn't answer your question, but it may give you some indication.
     
  8. finsfanscott

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    My opinion (worth exactly what you paid for it) is that at the $100/hand level, there are better places to play blackjack. IIRC, the Trop has only S17 tables (meaning the dealer will hit a soft 17) and will not allow doubling after a split. There could be a separate high roller pit with better rules, but I haven't found it. Most of the MGM properties will have more favorable rules than the Trop, but if you're looking for something different, I can understand.

    Plus, I would expect the comp value of a standard room at the Trop to be less than all the MGM places, with the possible exception of the Excalibur, so in theory you would get more food/beverage/shows comped off.

    Good Luck, and have fun!
     
  9. fireguye8

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    Update:

    As seen in my earlier post I had never played at the Trop or had even set foot in the property.

    Just got back from my trip. I was able to make contact with a host prior to arrival and was comped up front 3 nights in one of the standard updated rooms with a strip view in the tower closest to the casino floor. This was a little more than I expected as some people mention the typical line is, "Casino rate and we will evaluate your play at the end." The room was clean and simple which was perfect as I was flying solo this trip and planned on gambling until I could not see every day. I ended up playing about 21 hours over the 2 nights & 3 days with a final average of $205 per hand.

    I will admit there are better rules at other properties on the strip at that average bet but I had a blast. The dealers and pit staff where incredibly nice and accommodating. Most days it was the same players and we had a blast. We created the "dream team" (the dream of winning, never really happened but I did make a 14K comeback after a disastrous first day and came back home with only about $500 less than even.) I also enjoyed the smaller casino size and slower pace. Drink service was incredible. I could not keep up with the waitress. I never had to order. Once the one I was drinking was 2 sips to finished another would show up.

    As far as the games go they always had a $25 dollar 2 deck pitch game. DAS, RSA, etc. on the main floor. The only negative rule was the dealer had to H17. They had a $100 DD S17 pitch game in the high limit room with the same rules as the MGM properties.

    I am coming back in August and was given a penthouse loft with a connecting room for that trip. We are bringing some friends and wanted them to be close but not to close. I told the host up front that I will only be playing 3-4 hours a day if lucky that trip (the wife will be with me) and he had no issue with comping the rooms, limo transfer from the airport, and a cabana at the pool for both days.

    Obviously your experience may/will vary but I had a great time and would stay and play at the Tropicana anytime.
     
  10. dankyone

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    Glad to hear you enjoyed it.

    Are you booked in at RFB for your return stay? You should be. 21 hours over 2 nights at $205 is like $538/hand average for the benchmark 4 hours a day. I doubt the Trop has many people playing higher than that.

    It is very interesting to get data like this from players at your level who do not stay at the top hotels--it is helpful to get info as to what would be comped at less expensive properties.
     
  11. fireguye8

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    I would not necessarily call it RFB but I think this is based on my requests to the host for the upcoming August trip. We requested the Penthouse Loft Suite with a connecting room. (I guess this is an option.) That way our close friends can stay with us and we can share the common space of the suite but we each have our own "private" (if you know what I mean) space.

    I also requested a cabana at the pool for both days and limo service two and from the airport. I was also very upfront with the host and informed him that the August trip will only be about 3-4 hours per day max of play at $200.00 per hand.

    When I go solo I go to gamble. With the wife it is a different trip. He had no concerns comping everything up front and said as long as we are reasonable the food should not be an issue either but did state that would be evaluated at the end of the trip so I am not banking on it.
     
  12. casinoboy

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    that is RFB from what your host said because RFB is never unlimited but just has different limits depending on your gambling. it seems like he is giving your RFB when he says as long as your food is reasonable it wont be a problem. that is good play but you are getting more for it at trop than you would at other places so if you like trop its a great deal.
     
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    Yeah, that is more like "no problem picking up all your food and bev if you play like last time but I reserve the right not to if you don't."

    I used to try telling hosts that I was going to play more/less than last time. They just ignore that and book you in based on HOW you played last time, not what you tell them you are going to play next time.
     
  14. fireguye8

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    Yes everything from the last trip was picked up but I was solo and ate of property for dinner.

    August trip is RFB with a "be reasonable" on the food and beverage since we requested the larger suite, an extra room for friends, and 2 cabana days.

    I think this is more than fair especially as the amount of play will be no 3-4 hours per day and possibly only about 8-10 total for the 2 nights/3 days.
     
  15. Kickin

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    I agree. I like this type of info because I play the same levels and I sometimes wonder whether to take it to a place with easier comps. So far I've been able to squeeze enough out of the system not to pay for anything at the places I stay but I know I've been pushing the envelope.

    I visited the Trop though to do the $200 freeplay thing while we were next door at MGM and wasn't loving the vibe. But it was in the middle of the afternoon. Nice to know they have the DD S17 pitch game though since they also have some decent VP...definitely makes the place more attractive.
     
  16. fireguye8

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    That is the reason I posted this. I have been staying a properties that are nicer and giving the same play with good results from the comps. I was curious to try something a little "lower end" to see what my play would get me.

    I was actually really surprised by how much fun I had playing there. My only concern is the lack of choices for food. I love really good food. I did not try either of the two "nicer" restaurants at the Trop but elected to eat off property.

    I am looking forward to the August trip and will continue to give the Trop my play until I get disappointing results. Right now I am 100% happy!
     
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    What are the restaurant options like? The reason I love MGM properties is the huge variety of great food for my comps.
     
  18. fireguye8

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    In my opinion that may be the 1 major problem. There are two nicer restaurants and this trip I did not try either. One is a steakhouse that actually looked pretty good and the other was an Italian place. Both menus looked good but I had several places this trip that I wanted/needed to eat at. The other place is the "beach cafe" it is larger and open 24 hours. The food was good. Nothing special but nothing memorable either.

    Next trip I am going to try the steakhouse. I get out to Vegas monthly so still have a good amount of comps from the MGM properties.
     
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    biscayne steakhouse

    I ate there last week. Excellent surf and turf for me. Others also were pleased, I will return
     
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    I found this post interesting because for some reason i really like playing BJ there, and i play at the same level as the OP. Their HL room is rarely busy as far as i can tell. Each time i am in there they ask me if i have a host (i used to, but haven't been there for a while and forget his name). You can usually easily get the new spa suites room, which is nice with a large jacuzzi in the bedroom and a steam shower and a separate sauna in the bathroom. Last time i went comped there there was a problem with a room being ready for me for some reason. I was waiting until like 5pm and finally started to show my irritation (have a slow fuse). Well, the desk called someone and voila i had the Penthouse loft comped for 3 nights. I REALLY like that room. Nice hardwood floors and a jacuzzi the size of a small pool.
     
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