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Tier credits V Coin in

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Harry5, Oct 1, 2012.

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  1. Harry5

    Harry5 Tourist

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    I am mainly a poker player,but as this hardly rates at all for comps I am happy to play a couple of hours slots per day to keep the offers coming.Makes a nice contrast to concentrating at the tables for several hours at a time.

    I have a host at Aria who looks after me well.I am Platinum after my last trip in April.

    I only manage to make one trip a year to Vegas.Many of the slots I enjoy playing are deemed 'specialty slots' by MGM so only rate at 1 point per $10rather than $2 for 'normal' slots (I believe this is to increase to $3 as of today?).

    Putting aside the issue of Express Comps,will it hurt how my host/MGM views me if I have the same coin in but less tier credits?

    My coin in is usually around $4000 per day at around $4 per spin and I stay for a week at time.This usually accrues me somewhere in the region of 120-160k of tier credits over the week,depending on what I am playing.In the past,I have tried to make sure I focus my play on non specialty slots to increase my tier credits,but having a host now,I wondered if that mattered at all? Would she just comp me based on my coin in over the week and would not care whether that be regular or specialty slots? If I played just specialty slots my tier credits would fall to somewhere in the region of 24k to 32k (I think).

    It seems to me that once you have a host,tier levels don't make much difference,so am I wasting my time trying to maximise my points (apart from the EC issue)? As the specialty slots seem to have a lower return than other slots anyway,wouldn't they rather I played these? My corporate offers are not great and as I need to book well in advance to lock in good air fares,I never use them anyway-just book through my host.

    I appreciate slots are a bad gamble,but I enjoy them, and would rather just relax and play the ones I want rather than choose because of tiers credits.But I would not want that to affect what my host would offer me in future.At present she comps the three weekend nights and the other four are casino rate.She usually then knocks some food off my bill after reviewing my play at the end of the week.

    Thanks.
     
  2. mike_m235

    mike_m235 Tourist

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    Your host will focus on the coin in, not the tier credits. I'm only Gold at MGM, but I get better offers than a lot of people who are platinum because of how and what I play.

    But if you're still worried about it, call your host and ask.
     
  3. Harry5

    Harry5 Tourist

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    Thanks Mike.I thought it would be logical that tier level would be of no interest to a host,only theo.It just seems that on most Vegas boards people are obsessed about moving up tiers so I was concerned that this might be an issue for my host as well.

    I will ask her when I'm there and post the reply.
     
  4. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    theo, not coin-in, is all that a host is concerned with. coin-in is a factor of theo, but the raw theo number is all that matters. you have to be concerned that they discount the theo per coin-in on the speciality slots. the only way to find out is to ask your host.
     
  5. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Very true. But, for the average player and not focused on speciality, coin in is a good "general indicator" of where they are at. Not the final number which is only available from a cooperative host, but surely a good indicator.

    And way better than money lost, daily budget, upfront money, hours played, tier level or other factors that folks try to use.
     
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