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Discussion in 'Downtown Hotels & Casinos' started by JonnyS, May 24, 2014.

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  1. JonnyS

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    Hi VegasMessageBoard,

    I'm new to the bored. I've been to Vegas four times. I just turned 21 last August. I've stayed at The Palazzo, The Westin, and the The Tropicana twice. I've never stayed downtown and at the end of June some of my family will be heading over from Florida. There last stay was with me at The Palazzo and we all agreed that type of hotel was not our style. I'm more of a Harrah's/Tropicana guy. I just feel more comfortable there. I also play tables. Mostly craps at a $25-50 spread for 3-6 hours a day. I dabble in slots usually in the morning, so I can get a free coffee ;). My question is in regards to staying downtown. I found a two bedroom suite at The Plaza, and emailed a host who is willing to give me a comped night Thursday and a casino rate for Fri/Sat/Sun at $105/105/93 per night. Does this seem like a good deal, and is The Plaza a good hotel to play craps at? Will my family have a better time downtown vs the strip. My dad is not a gambler. He likes to hangout at the pool, people watch, and go out and see Vegas history. My little brother will also be staying with us and he is 12. Will he be better off staying downtown or the strip?
     
  2. Someone

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    I am not a Plaza basher by any means, but

    the pool at The Plaza was described in one blog I read as "what a pool would be like if a prison had a pool".......it is that plain.....again NOT unsafe, not run down......just that boring

    I also think those rates are a bit high for The Plaza unless it is a busy weekend

    it would have been an easier recommendation with the 12yo little brother in the mix

    since your father likes the pool that pretty much makes it a no brainer as far as downtown is concerned and that is either the Golden Nugget or Downtown Grand.......the golden Nugget is all about the pool and it is open late as well especially by Vegas pool standards and the prices are not outrageous

    I am 99.9999% sure the Downtown Grand pool is now open (it opened later than the rest of the property), but if you contact them please verify it is up and going and their website says the pool is open until 7pm which again is pretty late by Vegas standards, but not open as late as the Golden Nugget........any other place downtown the pool (if it exist) will be really just a cement pond

    so as far as downtown those are the places I would contact and both would be more Harrahs or Tropicana type properties VS others you have mentioned as too upscale

    mixing in the little brother it will really depend on if you are actually going to actively make sure that he is not bored......there is the Fremont people watching.......the zipline I believe is finally up and going.....you can still go to see the sharks at Golden Nugget (and I believe even pay to use the pool as a non-guest) and so all of those things are available for you to visit no matter where you stay downtown and the neon boneyard is very close as well

    but Circus Circus of course would be more of a 12yo place (with a really terrible hotel and casino attached)......and again you can always stay ANYWHERE and still go there

    Stratosphere ......Circus Circus with a tower and rides instead of a carnival and again you can always just GO THERE and not stay there

    if you are wanting a place where you can hand your 12yo brother a hundie and give him a kick in the ass with an admonishment to make it last and not get in trouble and send him on his way well Southpoint or some place similar with a bowling alley and a game room and a better than average pool would be a better choice and off strip would probably be better so he does not call the "girls direct to your room" number like he will on the strip

    if you are going to actively make sure he is entertained then downtown at one of the two places listed would be great since both have nicer than average pools and later pool hours than average......if you are going to have him more fend for himself then Circus Circus (buy him a nice lock blade knife just in case haha) or one of the places off the strip with a bowling alley, cinema, pool, game room and some other kid friendly amenity would be better
     
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    I stayed at the Plaza last week. I liked it. They have some good Video Poker machines by the Poker Room. We had a great time at the tables too. If you play what you said you did, I will guarantee that your room will be comped at the end of your stay.

    The pool is as Someone stated it is. It's an ok pool but not what I would call a people watchers pool.
     
  4. JonnyS

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    Thanks for the great info. I'm definitely open to options and I hadn't even thought about a place like Sam's Town. I've been to Circus Circus and have to say I'm not to fond of that area of the strip. lol I agree with making my brother carry a shank if we stayed at that hotel. Orleans seems to have two bedroom suites, which might be a good idea. Thanks for the quick replies. Also, we do enjoy the feel of Harrah's, so it might come down to a toss up between Harrah's and those two off strip properties. The Plaza doesn't look bad at all, but I do feel like the 100 a night is steep for a property of that caliber. I do believe I'll be comped at the end, but I do not play for comps.
     
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    again just so I am not accused of being a Plaza Basher (and because I am not).....they should have nice rooms they did a refurbishment with the Fountain Blue furniture that they bought when that property did not open

    so I would like to credit them for making that investment.......and their pool IS a pool.....and not much else so based on your dad liking the pool the other two choices downtown would be much better options IMO unless there is a dramatic or unacceptable increase in cost from your perspective.......if it was just a question of "does the Plaza have nice rooms and a nice casino" then the answer would be yes by me......other places to stay well there are lots of options downtown that is why downtown is so popular lately......but "pool" means really 2 places downtown currently the GN or DTG

    I agree 100% on not playing for comps

    you seem to like Boyd Properties from some you mentioned so

    http://www.samstownlv.com/entertain

    http://www.orleanscasino.com/entertain

    http://www.suncoastcasino.com/entertain

    and then former Boyds property

    http://www.southpointcasino.com/entertainment/index.php

    if it was me as a kid of 12 (if I can remember back that far) besides girls direct to my room, trying to sneak drinks or getting booted from the pool I think that The Orleans would have the most with the cinema, bowling and game room and I think the play area would be a little above a 12yo and SunCoast is pretty much the same, but out on it's lonesome away from adult action and Sams town as well and I think the Mystic Falls might be interesting at Sams, but probably less so for a 12yo than even an adult

    so I would say Orleans might be OK

    you can also look at Stations, and I would say RedRocks would probably be better than GVR because of the bowling and both are well "out of the way" so that is a draw and besides the pool being a whole lot cooler looking than Orleans they are probably about the same IMO from a 12yo perspective and I would imagine both will cost more than The Orleans.......some other Station properties might have more, but I don't think so from a kids perspective and they all have the same distance away from the strip or downtown factor

    and I will say again I am a BIG fan of the pool was as a kid and still am as an adult and one thing is for sure the pools in most Vegas properties close EARLY so you will want to look at the pool hours for dad and your brother and IMO some of the places with the nicer pools actually close them earlier than others because they want to let the staff go home and they want to get guest back into the casino or clubs after they have chiseled them at the pool for all they can

    so be careful of choosing a place with an awesome pool VS a more plain pool and then realizing that it closes at 5pm or 6pm when a pool elsewhere is open until 8 or 9 when your dad or little brother might just want to swim before hitting a movie or hitting the bed
     
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    Just my 2cents, but I don't think $77 a night for a 2 bedroom Suite on any weekend is high, even at a crap place like Casino Royale, Circus Circus, or Wild Wild West. That is what the average nightly price you stated is, after averaging in the free night.... The suites at the Plaza are reasonably nice.
     
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    My 2c...
    If you're going to play craps at that level...FORGET paying for a room downtown, that shit should be COMPED.
    Also, if you're going to bring a non-legal gambler (person under 21) FORGET downtown, as there's NOTHING for them.
    If it were me, I'd be looking at Sams Town, Orleans, or SouthPoint (They all have a movie theatre and a bowling alley on property)
    OR just stay on the strip, just simply for the walking-around-spectacle.
    FWIW, $75 average on craps at Sams Town will get you RFB (Verified by Host), so $50 should definitely get you rooms.
     
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    Personal opinion is that downtown would not be fun for a 12 year old. Maybe one night to take in the fremont street experience but other then that not much else for him to do. The Orleans would seem like a good option. We have stayed there multiple times and there were always seem to be kids there with plenty for them to do, i.e movie theater, bowling, arcade. Also like Boyd properties as they seem to be a little more liberal with their comps then the other properties I have stayed.
     
  9. JonnyS

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    Thanks again for the replies everyone. We've decided to break the trip down into two parts. Harrah's Thursday and Friday/Sam's Town Saturday and Sunday. Thank you (Someone) for the Sam's Town recommendation. I didn't even think of it. Both days are comped from Harrah's, so it was hard to resist. The little brother should have a good time at Sam's Town and two days on the strip shouldn't be to boring for him ;).
     
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