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the new time share sales presentation experience

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by searchin, Dec 31, 2014.

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  1. searchin

    searchin Low-Roller

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    The Silverton is having Vacation Village build some timeshares on their property . We agreed to a ninety minute presentation for $130 visa card and $25 silverton gift card.
    Be at the desk by 2:15 for a 2:30 bus ride to Vacation Village by Southpoint. So we rush our buffet and get to the desk by 2:30 to be told 6,7 minutes and overhear 6,7 minutes X 3 in 6,7 minute intervals.
    So , note to self , be aware of robo sales lines.
    We meet our sales person and tell her the importance of getting through this in ninety minutes. Her robo line is " it is very important to me that I be able to tell you everything you need to know, bla, bla, " In other words this will take longer than ninety minutes and If we want we can reschedule. Well we already invested an hour. OK.
    Sales guy/performer sort of like a stand up comedian/motivational speaker takes up about a half an hour playing games, warming up the crowd to get in the mood to like them. Then he plays with numbers. Average night hotel cost X average days vacay plus inflation X how many years you live = a ?$$??? down the drain. Then watch a video of happy customers.
    Of course everyones hotel experience is different. When I started vacationing in my twenties I spent about $40.00 a night and now in my fifties its about $60.00. So in ten years I'll probably be paying about $70.00. I'm OK with that.
    Walking to the sit down area we pass maps showing all the locales you can visit with their plan and some pics of rooms. Then this machine that you can put in your zip code and see people that have bought time share with them. There was one person in my zip and sales person asked if we knew them . No. Then we put in a Zip of someone we knew had one and they came up. Kinda creepy.
    She keeps pointing to a few plaques that say RCI excellence award (to Vacay Village) the sales person saying "we are number one year after year". Is'nt that like Walmart giving Sams club an award ? I'm not impressed.
    I'm noticing some robo sales lines and I'm getting irritated.
    " I just been through (insert tragedy) and I said enough, I'm going on vacay"
    "My (insert family member) is so important to me and I say Hey, you want to go on vacay?"
    How do I know these were robo ? Because she repeated this over and over. Even when I repeated that we were in a time crunch , get to the numbers she would go off and repeat the same story.
    OK numbers finally, $27,000 and $699 yearly maintenece fee and a $399 fee to RCI ( because they are just an affiliate, ya right, whatever ) (robo line-they have to make a living too) and a booking fee every time you want to go somewhere else other than your home timeshare.
    I say NO and show disgust to all the fees. They go into another robo line(insert tragedy)and say they are a Christian and they prayed, bla, ba, I'm glazing over.
    I say NO , NO and NO. I'm ready to leave.
    They say OK and send in the next salesperson who we were robo (I'm sure) told that he is a Christian. Not only that , he is a Reverend. We tell him No. He starts drawing boxes. I'm really done but somewhere in there they offer incentives like 5 more nights at $30 each and some lower pricing. So I'm peed that the poor shmuck that says yes right away gets to pay the most. How Christian.
    Ok ,Heres a slip go to next sales guy that starts in again and he has a digital picture frame to use on us but immediately we resist. And then wait for the bus back.
    On the bus we talk to another couple that didn't buy but they received $140. visa card $25 silverton gift card and a 2 night stay. WHAT ! we got short changed. The 2 night stay is one of those certificates that gives you 3 scheduling chances and fine print so no big loss.
    We got back in just under 4 hours. If you go, plan on 5 hours. If you go, spend some time on time share reviews.
     
  2. UTE

    UTE Plastics

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    Nice job on the report, searchin. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.

    Bill
     
  3. matti

    matti Low-Roller

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    I'm not sure I understand the concept of a "robo line." Can you explain further?

    Congrats on your new time share!
     
  4. urbanphotos

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    suebee Low-Roller

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    Thank you for sharing your experience. I've often wondered if it would be worth my time to get the "free gift" but I don't think I could get through the presentations and pressure without losing my crap on someone - I'm not exactly a patient person.
     
  6. jamesxnj

    jamesxnj VIP Whale

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    Matti re Robo Line,I believe what the OP means is the robotic things the salesmen are taught to say and to answer questions..
    I've hard the same exact lines from people who got involved in Amway...'"Where do you plan on being financially in the next five years?" or "Here is an opportunity to work on the front-line of Multi-million dollar companies"..etec etc. My old boss was sucker for every new pryamid scheme that came down the road...esp Real Estate when that was big.
     
  7. BlacklabberMike

    BlacklabberMike VIP Whale

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    totally know what you mean..

    we were in Orlando some years ago....got approached with 4 tickets to Universal via limo for a 30 minute tour of Westgate....


    ok, we bite..kids are 9 and 7

    we do the tour, the snacks buffet and the sphiel....

    i was never,ever gonna bite, but for the payoff i thought OK...dumbass me

    after the tour , you get to a room to expect your gifts....they start with their sell speech, yadda,yadda,yadda...

    after a few minutes you hear some guy say, number 13 has just been sold to a lucky couple from kanasa,,,this gets repeated several times...

    finally a sales guy come to our table..,,starts laying out the financing on piece of paper.....sign here, only $99 a month.....
    there was no way i was going to buy.....
    he leaves and i tell the wife..ms blondie will be next... sure nuff she tries to sweet talk me,,,,,but i say no, where's the tickets?
    then mr hard sell shows up and puts the pressure on laying out a contract for me to sign/...idiot,
    like i am going to sign anything without my attorney and banker reviewing it...
    i ask for my tickets again... the stall
    now it is 3 hours gone by so i tell my kids to go apeshit...scream, cry, throw tantrums...whatever....

    10 minutes later we have 4 tickets in hand and a limo to take us to universal...

    to this day if a time share person approaches me, i just say "don't even think of it":haha:
     
  8. smartone

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    Though I've never participated in one of these, I'm always amused that those who seek to "use" the timeshare salespeople to get what they want seem so shocked the timeshare people also want to "use" them to get what they want?
     
  9. nickle

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    "to this day if a time share person approaches me, i just say "don't even think of it"Click or hover your mouse to enlarge image"

    You are polite to the extreme...Wife and I went to Pahrump first time to Vegas for one of these things...never again! I treat time share sales pitchers just the same as porn slappers...no eye contact, no spoken word, no acknowledgement at all.
     
  10. Electroguy563

    Electroguy563 Over-Fried Gambler

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    I agree. It's one thing to go to one of these things in good faith and interest then decide it's not what you want. Going to just "get free stuff" is another. I think those who go in good faith are rather shocked at their "don't take no" for an answer which is probably what annoys them.

    Those who go only to get the free stuff cannot complain. They had no intent or interest in the first place so if they want the free stuff they just gotta tough it out. No complaining. Earn your "free stuff".

    Either way, the timeshare people are ruthless to both categories. Once you are on these presentations, you must be prepared mentally for a full-on battle once you tell them no.
     
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  11. NickPapageorgio

    NickPapageorgio OG of the Sal Sagev Hotel

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    I dont understand why everyone gets riled up over the timeshare folks. I go in knowing that i'm not buying and I have fun with it and enjoy the free stuff. (although the last presentation that I did was 4 or 5 years ago, and the reward was substantial... $200 in chips, 2 free show tix and 4 free room nights at PH)

    Remember, "No" is the most powerful word in the English language. You have the upper hand.

    Nick:beer:
     
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    ROFL!

    Q: What is the difference between a cold and a timeshare?

    A: You will eventually get rid of the cold!
     
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    I never done a time share for Vegas. My time there is worth much more then what they can ever offer. A bet on One hand is 5x to 10x what they have to offer so my casino host would give me more for that much time. I just tell them no but I didn't know it took that long in vegas. I attend a few here. The gift was a new set of callaway clubs and a new ipad and a round of golf while I'm there so worth the 60-90 min speal but still under an hour and half. I sit listen and then grab my gift and head to the golf course.

    They pull my credit so they know when I tell them Price is not the issue. Don't get in a price thing with them. 3 P's to the sale People, Price and Produce. You buy from people you like that is why the keep switching sales people to see if you click with one of them. Price, if it is cheap enough you will buy it. the Product. You are on vacation so you take vacations.

    I tell them I get free rooms every place I go because I go to casinos, so Timeshare is useless and this place is like the house keepers room so why would i stay here.

    I would pay the full asking price if this was something i could use, but I can't. Takes every sales pitch away. I'm not going to buy anything I can't use. example Would any of you buy a office in the Harmon tower? great location but you can't go in it. No matter how cheap if you can't use it it is useless.




    Thanks to the OP for the insight as i might get sucked in to one if I'm taking a break from the tables, but I'm sure I could find something better to do like watch drunk people on the strip instead.



    and Thanks blacklabbermike I was in Orlando and was thinking the same thing I could go to this time share thing and save myself the tickets but thanks for sharing your experience I'll just fork over the money for the tickets.
     
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    searchin, thanks for the detailed write up, funny how 90 minutes turns into half a day. I've rented time shares and would do it again, but never own one. My vacation time is worth way more than $30 an hour.
     
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