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The Decline of Gaming at The Cosmopolitan

Discussion in 'Casino Gaming' started by CosmoM, Apr 5, 2013.

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  1. CosmoM

    CosmoM Low-Roller

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    I walked through the casino last weekend to survey the games, specifically I was intending to watch the Blackjack Switch game because I wanted to use that game to show a high level of play, while minimizing risk, to earn status at the resort.

    They no longer have Blackjack Switch.

    Their better Video Poker games are $5 or more, the quarter machines are not what I would play, and the players club earns freeplay at only 0.133%

    Blackjack seems to be viable from past reports, but I haven't checked recent reports.

    Things may get worse since their announcement of $106.5 million loss in 2012, with a lower than expected hold percentage from gaming.

    The Wynn seems to be a better option for my purpose of gaining status at a luxury resort, due to better Video Poker game odds at a lower denomination ($1), so I can move up and down as results change, and marginally better freeplay and comps at 0.167%.



    YMMV

    Cheers,


    Cosmo
     
  2. DMSCR

    DMSCR High-Roller

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    I have noticed the same thing. Last time I was there which was in Dec 2012 there aren't that many table games as when I first visited them when they just opened and in around May/June 2011. In the beginning from what I remember there were four baccarat tables. And now recently they only have two and they are EZ Bac. Plus the dealers are not as friendly as in the beginning when they just first opened. Yet what I do noticed is that the cocktail waitresses are much better looking though.
     
  3. VegasDave

    VegasDave Addicted

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    before or after a few drinks? kidding

    there are some nice looking girls there and Planet Hollywood
     
  4. TheJacob

    TheJacob Tourist

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    Neither place is where you really want to play video poker and according to vpfree wynn actually offers lower freeplay(0.067%) on their good machines while cosmopolitan gives the same cashback regardless.
     
  5. paperposter

    paperposter VIP Whale

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    when it comes to table games cosmo has the worst unless your in the high limit room ,they make cet games look great and thats very hard to do.
     
  6. JimboS

    JimboS Low-Roller

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    The waitresses at Cosmo have always been hot. It still is the newest property on the Strip. The reason they make so little on gaming is because the clubs and buffet are on the second floor so you can pretty much avoid the slots and table games on the first floor.
     
  7. JNCVH

    JNCVH Tourist

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    Cosmo is still my favourite place to play craps, good dealers and great drink service.:beer:
     
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    RPMCanes High-Roller

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    That's good to know, because I would love to stay there in one of the fountian view rooms. The view is so appetizing.
     
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    at the wynn you get the bonus of paying high prices at the bars for a drink even when you are playing.
     
  10. CosmoM

    CosmoM Low-Roller

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    I didn't intend to make this a Cosmopolitan vs Wynn report, but more of an observation that I believe that the Cosmopolitan will likely tighten up their gaming in the near future, and that gaming has already tightened up from the recent past.

    That being said, I would love to stay at the Cosmopolitan, where some of the best bartenders are, but I'm loyal to no property. Early this year I was comped a suite at a low level casino on the strip - it had a dry sauna room, full bar with bar stools, group shower room, jacuzzi, living and dining room, three baths, and a view of the strip from every window. I don't think I will be able to get the equivalent at the Cosmopolitan and survive financially, or the Wynn for that matter. But I think I can make a few plays at the Wynn without incurring too much damage for something less.


    Cheers,


    Cosmo
     
  11. WrongWayWade

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    Their blackjack sucks. EVERY 2-deck game on the main floor pays 6-5 and is still a $25 minimum and 1/2 of the BJ tables are devoted to this game. The 8-deck game is half-way decent with H17 and surrender but no RSA. Good penetration on the shoes, down to about 1 deck.

    But it is by far the best place on the Strip to goggle at all the chickies in their party dresses.
     
  12. VegasKing

    VegasKing Low-Roller

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    That is disappointing to hear about the Blackjack Switch. I have gotten to where I actually like BJ Switch more than regular BJ. I would figure they would like BJ Switch because they can fit more hands on a table.
     
  13. undathesea

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    Their identity program blows. It's terrible. They've taken away all of the perks. No free upgrades. No front of the line taxi. No limo service. And, they took the player's lounge off the casino floor and moved it up into the hotel on a high floor. Awful.
     
  14. FoolsGold

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    The Cosmopolitan is not for gambling.
    The Cosmopolitan is a place to see and be seen, it a place to inhale pheremones and Botox. Its a place for the swells to strut up and down while supposedly looking at art and benches and cleavage.
     
  15. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Art?
    Benches?

    Missed that part.
     
  16. Nittany1

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    [Early this year I was comped a suite at a low level casino on the strip - it had a dry sauna room, full bar with bar stools, group shower room, jacuzzi, living and dining room, three baths, and a view of the strip from every window.
    ]

    I'd like to know what property this was.Sauna,3 baths etc. sounds interesting.
     
  17. KBT2012

    KBT2012 High-Roller

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    It is pretty comical, I had them level match my Platinum mlife status and I think I've spent maybe $100 on video poker there one time, this was almost a year ago lol. I literally only go there to eat at the Wicked Spoon lol...
     
  18. Check-Raise

    Check-Raise Low-Roller

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    The price on their rooms has got to be it's saving grace. Any Joe off the street can book a Lanai Suite for $720 a night, or even a wraparound terrace suite for $300 a night!

    It's a great compromise for my fiance and I since she prefers luxury and classy while all I care about is the drink service and the gambling. I'll walk to anywhere from anywhere on the strip, doesn't bother me. Cosmo being pretty central helps me out a bit and since I'll always know she'll be happy at pool there or reading on the terrace, it's win/win. I'd stay just about anywhere that offers good VP and has a viable poker room, but since I'm planning a trip for two, the Cosmo is a good jumping off point where you can find some pretty affordable class and luxury :)
     
  19. MangoPort

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    They have a very specific target market and they aren't doing enough to capitalize on it - the market being young and affluent clubbers that are happy to drop $2k on bottle service but want discounted prix fix meals to eat before they go out.

    They also aren't notorous for gambling but when they do they're likely to be a lot less educated on proper rules of play.

    The big problem with this strategy is they are targeting a market at the EXPENSE of all other markets - families, gamblers and the extremely wealthy.

    Not an easy fix, but I think I understand their problem.
     
  20. PunterGoop

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    Cosmopolitan offers good blackjack comparable to MGM/Wynn but only in the Talon Club. The space is nice and in my opinion better than that of its neighbors Carta Privada and Club Prive however the atmosphere didn't compare to them during the weekend I was there. It was usually empty even during weekend nights which leads to the staff hovering over just about anyone who decides to play. A casino that offers good odds in one area but bad odds everywhere else is still viewed as a bad casino by most players. I'm not sure Cosmo understands that.

    Their hosting staff is under a lot more restrictions than MGM/Wynn as well - at least that was my experience.

    Its a nice property but needs a real operator, not the reluctant creditors turned reluctant owners that run the place now.
     
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