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Table Games Sls black jack rules

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by paperposter, Jul 24, 2014.

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  1. paperposter

    paperposter VIP Whale

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    THIS INFO CAME DIRECTLY FROM COO Rob Oseland OF THE SLS

    SLS Las Vegas Hotel & Casino wrote: here are our full rules on black jack:
    Single Deck 6:5 (No Surrender)
    · Hit Soft 17
    · Split Aces up to 2 hands
    · Double Down and Split on any first 2 cards

    Double Deck 3:2 (No Surrender)
    · Hit Soft 17
    · Split Aces up to 2 hands
    · Double Down and Split on any first 2 cards

    Six Deck 3:2
    · Hit Soft 17 (Main Floor)
    · Stand on soft 17 (High Limit)
    · Surrender Allowed
    · Split Aces up to 4 hands
    · Double Down and Split any first 2 cards

    No 8 Deck Shoes

    ""We'll offer a few minimum $5 games, but the majority of game will be $10 minimums. Maximum limits between $5k and $10K."
     
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    Other sources have said there will be at least a few 3:2 $5 tables, but most will be $10.
     
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    Not terrible. I wonder what their HL room will be, $50+?
     
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    PAPER...did he say whether or not DAS will be allowed on the two-deck game?
     
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    Hmmm, wonder if this is early opening incentives to build a customer base or the real deal. I could see myself becoming an SLS loyalist as long a the service does not suck and the gaming rules are more favorable than the MGM / CET grind joints. These are as favorable rules as my local casino offers. Lets hope they don't have the stupid drink comping MGM rules.
     
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    Looks like the same rules as most MGM properties, at least for the low limit ones.
     
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    I’m guessing that, in practice, you’ll be hard pressed to find a $5-10 game that isn’t 6:5. The $15-50 tables, for the most part, will be the six deck H17 game and the H17 double deck game will be $50+. (I assume that they’ll have some S17 games in the HL room.) That would put them in the meat of the Bell Curve for strip BJ rules (depending on the ratio of 6:5 to 3:2 games, of course).
     
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    In my experience, the 3:2 vs 6:5 amounts to such a small amount at the $5 or $10 level that it is basically irrelevant.

    I had stints during my 3 week trip in Vegas that I went for 3-4 hours without a Blackjack, so the 6:5 vs 3:2 was a non-issue....

    I guess my point is: Obviously take a 3:2 table over a 6:5 table, but don't loose a day/break your back loking for one, because it may not even be a factor...and besides, life is too short to sweat the small stuff

    cheers....-)
     
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    those are a direct copy from the coo
    but reading it it looks like cet rules to me so i say no but thats i gues i was hopping somebody else could figure it out

    Double Down and Split on any first 2 cards ... MAYBE THEY HAVE IT BACKWARDS SHOUDNT IT BE SPLIT THE FIRST 2 CARDS AND DOUBLE AFTER, THATS MY GUES BUT THER 6 DECK IS THE SAME SO YOU CAN ONLY SPLIT TWICE WICH MAKES NO SENSE SO ALITTLE CONFUSING
     
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    Gotta disagree there. It's so easy to find low limit 3:2 tables with good rules on the strip, I don't know why anyone would ever play anything else.

    6:5 tables also don't allow surrender, which for those who play properly, can be a big deal.
     
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    how can it the be more favorable than cet or mlife .cet hast the best low level 6 deck and mlife has the best dd , you cant im prove unless a bj pays 20/1 ,u dont have to grind cet or mlife there rules are fine. they only thing they could do is match it
     
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    Maybe I am not looking in right place, but I have struggled to find any CET 3/2 game at $10 level, that offers early surrender and was NOT continuous shuffle.

    Also CET at low level no respliting aces.
     
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    I think he considers $25 to be "low level."

    MLife has better $10 tables.
     
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    yup cet has 25$ 6 deck all favoribale rules , mlife has lower level and mlife has the best dd notsure if sls is like mlife or cet yet still confusing but either way still will be the same so u dont have to schelp to that end of the strip was my point
    so i dont see anything better at sls than either of the 2 or can be unless there paying more for a bj like 20/1

    - - - Updated - - -

    at 25$ you can split acces 4 times at ballys
     
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    At 25 mins I want two deck pitch, early surrender, resplit aces, and double on any two cards.

    If you know a CET / mgm game with those rules please let me know where.

    Otherwise I consider a 6 deck shoe with same rules at 10, a good low limit game. You can adjust your spread during bad shoes to avoid dumping your buy-in completely and take advantage of streaks.

    Of course I have sat at CET games where a hot streak resulted in 50% penetration on shoe by floor.
     
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    i dont play 10$ games sorry so i dont search them out but u can find ur dd at mlife all but the pitch part probaly

    i know at 25$ u can get what you want for 6 deck 10$ i have no idea
     
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    Just this Monday morning, Bellagio had their S17 6 deck shoe games down to $10. Three tables were $10, one was $15. All were nearly full.

    So technically, MLife has the best low level BJ.
     
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    That's great, I have only seen $10 continuous shuffle at Bellagio previously.
     
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    It's rare, but they do knock down their S17 games to $10 when it's slow.

    But yes, usually all of the $10 games are CSMs.

    I have no problem with CSMs though.
     
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