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SLS and North Strip.

Discussion in 'LV Strip Hotels & Casinos' started by waverunner, Aug 30, 2014.

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  1. waverunner

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    Just came back from Vegas yesterday and one of my goals was to visit SLS and Riviera, etc. and take pics. I used the RTC vendor at Paris and got a 2 hour pass. I arrived in Vegas on Sunday but used the pass on Monday morning/afternoon. It was bad karma from the outset.
    I boarded the bus at Paris and ventured up to SLS. The driver said "SLS", and myself and a few other people got off. We then had to walk further north past empty lots to get to SLS. There was a group of us walking (no one else was around except bums, more on that later).
    We all get to Sahara, er, i mean SLS, and we are not impressed from the outside, but hopefully the inside will make up for it. I then walk around the casino etc, and i found nothing to take a picture at. It looks like it could be any other casino Downtown, Off Strip, on Strip, Indian Casinos, etc. The casino had a few patrons gambling/eating but from what i saw, not a SLS type of crowd that would be the target audience that SLS strives for. Perhaps it was Monday afternoon and the wild and crazy big spenders won't be there till all the old folks have gone to bed.

    But SLS didn't impress me, and many people i have spoken to throughout the week felt the same way, they won't be back and other people i spoke to don't plan on spending time on the North end.
    As i mentioned, a few people would get off the bus at SLS, but most passengers would just stay on the bus till Downtown.

    I was only at SLS for about 20 minutes. I then walked back to Riviera, Slots o Fun, CC, to check out whatever, and it's so damn depressing being in that area. I walked into Riviera and left a couple of minutes later, there was no one there. I took some pics of the high rises and such, but there was no one walking. The people, some of whom were going to SLS like me to check it out, got on the next bus back to civilization (Wynn south).

    I love Vegas. I have been going there since Dan Tanna cruised the Strip in his red T-Bird. I used to love the North Strip. But SLS, from what i have seen briefly and the surrounding area, has a long way to go to attract gamblers and/or party people away from Downtown and Hotels like Aria, Cosmo, Cromwell, Hard Rock, Palms, etc.

    It was 2 hours i wish i could get back. There was a bum in front of an empty boarded up parking lot (next to Slots o Fun) that literally took a crapolla on the Strip at about 12.10 pm in front of everyone. Well, actually there was just me because there was no one else around since no one else was walking and the traffic was wizzing by.
    I finally got on the bus at "Slots" and felt relieved (no pun intended).

    The conversation on the bus back south soon transpired to how depressing the North Strip has become even with SLS. They all agreed that they were coming from Downtown and either had no plans on visiting SLS or just taking the bus to/from Downtown to the mid/south Strip.

    I wish nothing but the best for SLS. But the target audience for SLS was in my hotel PHO for the whole week partying, boozing, etc etc. I no longer party but the atmosphere was awe inspiring. Even the uninspiring pool at PHO had a pool vibe all week.
    I took a couple of pics of the outside of SLS, Riviera, Slots, and CC but nothing inside. For me personally, the North Strip nowadays and the last few years are just a baron wasteland. YMMV.
     

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  2. landsburger

    landsburger Low-Roller

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    Laughed a few times at your post. Not sure if that makes your trip to the North end worth it, but it's something.
     
  3. VegasDave

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    I predicted this exact thing to my girlfriend last week when I signed both of us up to spin the wheel as new card members. Nothing to really pull you in, it's just a casino in a bad location...
     
  4. waverunner

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    Here's some other pics, the Riviera with Wynn in the background is the contrast of old and new Vegas. I also took a pic of Echolon/Resorts World in the background with McDonald's (one of my favorite hangouts in the 80's) that perhaps one day will lead a resurgence back to the North.
     

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  5. dewey089

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    Thanks for the overview, negative as it is.
    I am not sure where the driver had you get off, but the SDX would drop you right across the street from what used to be a rear entrance to the Sahara at the Monorail station. I assume SLS has an entrance on the Paradise side of the building as well. Coming back might be a bit more complicated. I'm not certain where that Sahara/Paradise stop going South is located.
    http://www.rtcsnv.com/wp-content/uploads/routes/2013/SDX(07-07-13).pdf
    Of course, for the intended SLS crowd these stops won't be of much value since it is featured as a late night party place.
    They would have to come and go on the Deuce which stops closer to the casino on LV Bld.
    However, most of the intended patrons would probably not be bus riders.

    Great photography.
     
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    dewey. The bus driver made an announcement on the speaker signifying the next stop SLS. So we exited the bus. The bus was the Deuce. After exiting SLS there are 2 stops going back, one close to SLS (going south on LV Blvd near Westgate) and one a little further down the Strip at Slots o Fun.(which i took). I'm sure there is a more convenient spot somewhere closer using the Monorail, driving a car, taxi, etc.

    My original post was negative for the whole area, not SLS. SLS in itself is a nice piece of property. But the intended crowd for SLS is a late night party place in a place that seems "out" of place. Why would they take a taxi to party late at night/early morning when they could walk to Cosmo, Cromwell, PHO, MGM, etc at the same time?

    But time will tell. I go back in Nov. It will be interesting to hear from people who stayed there. But having an upscale property between Slots o Fun/CC/Riviera and Strat/Adult motels and tattoo parlors is a big gamble.
     
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  7. UTE

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    These things are subjective. I thought SLS was well done. It's not too big or small and has an eclectic restaurant selection - and each one of those I've eaten at has been great. The vibe at night is palpable. Prices range from surprisingly low to the normal Strip highs.

    Many Las Vegas sites are extraordinarily different during day and night experiences. Take Fremont Street Experience for example. Life under the canopy is vastly different at noon v. midnight.

    Bill
     
  8. Candy Apple

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    I was thinking of taking the monorail to SLS just to check it out, and then perhaps walk over to the Strat. I'm beginning to rethink that idea as I worry about a purse snatching with bums lurking about.
     
  9. fishyducky

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    Just got back from SLS. Stayed at Encore my first two nights and decided to try SLS last night. I gambled quite a bit at Encore and Cosmo, but when I walked into the SLS casino I didn't play. Maybe I was just tired after an entire weekend of partying but just wasn't feeling it.
     
  10. smartone

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    I highly doubt that's anything to be worried about unless you're strolling between 1 a.m.- 7 a.m.
     
  11. Funkhouser

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    We all knew SLS was targeting a young party crowd. The real question is the gaming and the comps good enough to attract a stable business. Personally if I can get upfront room comps, good gaming, and premium alcohol while gaming I'll play there. Who cares whether your at Flamingo or Sahara
     
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    I think waverunner's post says that some people may care.
    If your on the corner of Flamingo and Las Vegas Blvd.there are hundreds of choices for drinking, dining , gambling etc.in a short walk. Not so much at SLS.
    You may have to walk by the porn slappers near Flamingo but typically do not feel unsafe.
    Although the North Strip is moving in the right direction,you are still somewhat isolated.
    I wish them luck but for the time being,I'm staying center strip.
     
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    You guys keep forgetting the difference between SLS and the other properties, the Monorail.
    While this thing was not the miracle the strip casinos expected for foot traffic, I see it working very well in SLS favor.

    The deuce is a PITA sometimes, especially southbound. If I am staying on the east side of the strip at a CET property, or doing a convention, I almost always use the monorail.
    Yes your right, your options open up immensely mid strip, but I am 40's something guy who is not bar crawling. I would go to SLS for the same reason I go downtown when staying on strip.
    I want better comps and odds.

    The obstacle that keeps me from regularly staying at Palms, Rio, Hard Rock and downtown is the inconvenience of transportation. I think SLS has a leg up against competition against certain mid tier properties. There's
    no way in hell I would pay near Aria or WynnCore rates for that place. Just think if the marketing folks wise up over there and throw in some monorail passes with comp offers. If SLS matched my CET offers with say 3-4 upfront room nights, $200 FP, and a couple of monorail passes for when I get bored, it would be a no brainer for me.
     
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    I hate to break the news to you but the bus/monorail isnt the crows SLS is targeting. They are looking for the limo, partybus,taxi crowd. No offense.
     
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    I never thought of the monorail as I have been staying on the west side of the strip.
    When I stayed at MGM I used it a few times but other than that station it seemed like a long ass walk to use it.Ballys felt like I could walk where I was going faster.
     
  16. Funkhouser

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    Yeah I kinda acknowledged that in my post, but they can't keep the doors open waiting for the socal club hoppers to show up on weekends. They need that weekday mix to meet the 30% gaming revenue required to make the bond payments.
     
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