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Slots vs Craps? Comps/ Bankroll?

Discussion in 'Casino Gaming' started by wndrwmn71, Dec 27, 2012.

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  1. wndrwmn71

    wndrwmn71 Tourist

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    I'm a yearly visitor (twice a year in good times), and never really got into the slots. Way back when, when I was stationed in Korea, I used to love to play the slots. I'm a craps player by heart. I'll also play some VP (as I'm getting a little better) to kill time and score a few beers at the bar.

    My question is- are slots a better way to get comps (esp at MGM properties where they won't even rate your craps play under $25 minimum or so I've heard)? Should I try a combo of craps/ slots/ VP to get the most bang for my buck?

    Also- I LOVED the "old" reel slot machine (Wild Cherries, Haywire, etc) and I can't seem to figure out the new video-style slots and the really crazy over-the-top ones. I do get an itch to play Wheel of Fortune every time I walk past it though.

    Which ones should I be looking for? Don't want anything higher than a $.50 or $1 machine, as I won't max bet every spin...

    Any suggestions, especially from the slot kings & queens, would be great. I have rewards cards for every property on the strip, and Binions properties.
     
  2. Gregsmt

    Gregsmt Low-Roller

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    How much do you bet at craps? 5 on the line, and $12 on the 6&8 is $29 and they will rate you on that. But slots will definitely get you more comps than $25 at craps
     
  3. Smo

    Smo Mr. Las Vegas

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    Slots give you more comp points per dollar than VP or craps do.

    Most, if not all the casinos, still have the mechanical 3-reel machines like haywire, double diamond, tabasco, flaming 7's, etc etc etc.

    You need someone to help you with the new penny machines. They are mostly for fun, not for profit! You can figure them out on your own, do some reading online, or bring a knowledgeable friend along.

    Mostly, don't go chasing comps, it's all about having fun and enjoying what you like to play.
     
  4. Chuck2009x

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    Purely based on house advantage, the comps should be about the same for slots and table games.

    The difference is in the variance.

    Compare a low-variance slot (like a reel machine with a low jackpot and no bonus for max coin) to a craps session where you buy in for say $200 at a $10 table.

    If variance is not in your favor, that $200 can be gone fast, much too fast for you to have made enough bets overall to have earned much in comps (of course, you can get lucky and win yourself $1,000 and then not worry about comps).

    The same $200 in a low-variance slot at 0.25, you are more likely to churn it through and earn more comps.
     
  5. WrongWayWade

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    Remember, the edge on slots will run from 4% up to 11% or 12%. The edge on blackjack and craps is below 1%. That's all you need to know about how to earn comp points. $1000 through a slot machine is FAR more valuable points-wise than $1000 risked at a table game. (Video Poker is worth a lot less, usually half or even smaller, then standard slots).

    You can always see by watching the meter how much you have to risk at the slot machine to get a point, I think the CET standard is $5 per point, (not sure if it varies by denomination or not.) They never will tell you the actual points earned at a table game; they always act dumb when I ask. They'll tell you how you are rated, ("I have you at $50 a hand", but won't spill how many comp points that converts to.

    I did an experiment just by checking my points before and after a session at a blackjack table. For $15 a hand I earned 60 points in an hour (another CET property). So 15*80=$1200 risked; $20 risked to earn one point. Or maybe $25 if they consider it 100 hands per hour.
     
  6. wndrwmn71

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    I was told at MGM a few years back that I didnt even get rated unless I had $25 on the pass line, then everything else was figured in. Couldn't believe it. When I played a $10 minimum table at the Dirty Bird, with $10 on the pass line and $50 on the table at any time, I got a decent amount of points.

    I never buy in with less than $300 for a $10 table, and $500 for a $25 table (big time low roller- I have a lot of other more expensive hobbies), and my win/loss ratio is pretty much break even.
     
  7. Gregsmt

    Gregsmt Low-Roller

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    I bet 10 on the pass and 90 place bets and a pretty aggressive press of the bets when they hit and I get pretty good comps from any mgm casino I go to. So it's the aggregation of bets excluding odds that go into your rating and its pretty easy to be over the $25 dollar minimum.
     
  8. jrinct1

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    TOTALLY AGREE. Not even an issue.
     
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