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Table Games Single deck blackjack

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by SW, Aug 15, 2013.

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  1. SW

    SW Well-Known Member

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    This fall I’ll be visiting Laughlin for the first time and look forward to playing some single deck blackjack. I’ve only played 4-8 deck shoe games as those are the only games available locally for a red chipper like me. In these games, the cards are dealt face up and you can not touch the cards. Not true in single deck games, correct? How do you double down in a single deck game? When can you generally double down? How many cards are cut off in a single deck game? Etc.

    Please explain the differences between the mechanics of playing a single deck and a multi-deck shoe game in blackjack. Thanks!
     
  2. Kickin

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    In any pitch game if you want to double down or split you lay down your cards face up to do it. You also lay them down face up if you get a blackjack or if you bust.

    The rest of the mechanics are straightforward. If you want to hit you scratch your cards towards you on the table, if you want to stand you tuck them face down under your bet. Again, if you bust you lay them down face up. You can only use one hand to handle the cards.
     
  3. clubsoda

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    The cards will be dealt to you face down. Pick the cards up with one hand. DO NOT hold the cards with two hands. DO NOT bend the cards (you're not at the World Series of Poker, you're playing blackjack). DO NOT bring the cards toward you past the edge of the table (and out of the view of the camera).

    If you wish to take a hit, lightly scrape your cards towards you on the felt (in a motion as if to say give me another).

    If you wish to stand, tuck the corner of your cards under your bet and leave them there face down. DO NOT pick up your bet and put it on top of your cards, instead just gently slide the corner of the cards underneath the chip.

    If you wish to double down or split, turn your cards face up in front of your bet then play as you would in a shoe game.

    If you get a Blackjack, flip your cards face up.

    If you bust, flip your cards face up.

    Which hands you are allowed to double and how deep the cut card is will vary from casino to casino, just ask.
     
  4. elrohir44

    elrohir44 Low-Roller

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    I know of four casinos in Laughlin that have true 3:2 single-deck BJ. They are:

    Riverside
    Edgewater
    Colorado Belle
    Pioneer

    It's been a while since I have been in the Golden Nugget so I don't know if they have it or not.

    DO NOT play the single-deck games at Aquarius and Tropicana. These are short-pay 6:5 games which are a rip-off for the player.

    One more not about the single-deck games in Laughlin- with the exception of the Pioneer, you are limited to doubling down on 10 and 11 only. There is no soft-doubling or doubling 9s. This makes the house edge about equal to the edge on the double-deck games you can find around town (around .45%). Also of note is that double-after-split is not permitted in any BJ game in Laughlin. Adjust your play accordingly.
     
  5. SW

    SW Well-Known Member

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    Thank you all!
     
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    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    Personally, I find that most 2-deck games are far better than single deck.
    I'm ok with H17, but I would never play a "double on 10 & 11 only" game.
    My preference? 2-deck, with DAS, double on any two cards.

    For the purpose of counting, I actually like the 2-deck shoe games found at El Cortez, Plaza and LVC better, as seeing every player card, along with the dealer's up-card - as the hand is unfolding - makes keeping a running count far easier.

    And, with the El-Co's game, the cut-penetration is pre-set...at about 75%. Many other two deck games, it looks to be in the 50% to 60% area.

    The main problems with most single-deck games are:
    1. Most are 6:5 these days.
    2. There are very few hands dealt per shuffle, often as few as 2 per deck, making for a minimal advantage in counting.
    3. If you're lucky enough to be playing head-to-head with the dealer, the scrutiny you draw from the pit is scorching.

    So, yeah - a good-rules two deck game is, in my opinion, the generally better game to play.
     
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  7. SW

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    Thanks topcard! I'll make a point of trying the double deck games in Laughlin also.
     
  8. gguerra

    gguerra Low-Roller

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    I found single deck, 3:2 on weekdays during the day at MSS. Don't remember if it was $5 or $10 but the table was empty. That's the best BJ odds and limits I've seen. Does it it get any better? That's like playing with friends at home.
     
  9. topcard

    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    I love playing blackjack at MSS...great feel/atmosphere.
    But I don't recall ever seeing such a game there (unless you're talking about one of the 'carnival-21 games'.)

    Single deck 3:2?
    I'm only aware of the El-Co having such a game with low-limits.
     
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  10. Malibugolfer

    Malibugolfer High-Roller

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    No way MSS has 3/2 single deck regular blackjack. It did (does?) have "Super Fun 21" which is a hybrid bj game.
     
  11. gguerra

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    I know they had it because I played it and pointed it out to a friend that was with me. I do remember saying this is the kind of game to look for. It was on a Monday early afternoon about 1-2pm. The casino was pretty empty and nobody else was playing BJ. I had been playing craps and was leaving and noticed the BJ. Don't remember exactly but more than likely it was a $10 table. I would have noticed right away if was not regular BJ. It was on June 17th to be exact. Oh and BTW, I've been playing BJ all of my adult life, I am 50 now.
    I remember explicitly seeing the 3:2 on the sign. Super Fun 21 pays 2:1.

    @Keyser Soze's; there goes your comment about the ploppies.
     
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  12. Keyser Soze

    Keyser Soze Low-Roller

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    This is correct. I was in there last month, and it was "Super Fun 21."

    Ploppies don't know the difference anyway, so it doesn't matter. They just want someone to take their money.
     
  13. WrongWayWade

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    My guess is that you were playing double-deck and didn't really pay attention to the size of the deck(s).
     
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