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Should I use my players card or not in this situation.

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by voltron12, Sep 26, 2015.

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  1. voltron12

    voltron12 Low-Roller

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    My host always says use my card no matter what when at the tables, but in these kind of situations should I. I will play 3-6 hours of craps everyday. My average bet will be between 150 and 250. I do like to play some bj especially if I am on a bad craps run. I will probably only play for an hour a day but my bets will range from 25-100 most being 25 unless situations are in my favor and that doesnt last long. When I sit down at the bj table should I just keep my players card in my pocket. I have asked many times when I get up what they have my average bet at when playing bj and they almost always say 25.00. So does it look better to my host if I just had lets say 4 hours a day at 150-250 at craps and no bj play at all. Or 4 hours of craps at 150-250 and an hour a day of bj at 25.00 average bet. I just dont want to lower my total gambling average bet for the trip, especially at a game with such a low house edge if it makes things look worse to my host. I am pretty simple also on comps, I just want a nice room and resort fees comped off. If I have enough play to take care of any meals I appreciate it but if not I am fine. I dont have to worry about resort fees anymore also since I am diamond. Next trip I did get 2 rooms so only 1 could be comped upfront so the other will be looked at on the backend.

    So any thoughts on if it is better, worse, or pretty much neutral either way on this kind of situation giving them my players card when playing bj for a short amount of time at a lower average bet.
     
  2. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Not sure if I can/will answer that scenario, but I will put this out there.

    Hosts always say to always use your card.
    The master computer tracks all play and assigns you a value. That value is more or less tied to your Average Daily Play - under many different names.

    Those with a higher average are of course more valuable to the casino, so they get more offers to come and "donate".

    Not sure how much of the host compensation and merit ranking is tied to total play from their players and how much is tied to each players average.

    Hmmmm
     
  3. paperposter

    paperposter VIP Whale

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    i just did this i play 200 to 1500$ a certian place

    for the hell off it i was playing 15$ and asked not be rated they were cool about it.

    if low playing i ask not to be rated. i dont need it in the system .

    just my opinion

    some people belive if they play 25$ a hand and sit for 2 hours its better to be rated so its like 50$ an hour
     
  4. sindustry

    sindustry VIP Whale

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    By doing the latter, even though your average will be lower than straight craps, you should be generating more Theo.
     
  5. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    Honestly at those low numbers all that matters is your total theo.

    So always give them your card and get the theo.

    But at the same time, work a little harder to get them to raise your BJ avg. If you made even one bet higher than $25, your average should be higher. You should be able to talk to them and get them to increase it to 35 or even 50 if you did manage to make several 100 bets.

    The only time when avg bet really matters is at a very high level where it looks better to the bosses when you have a really high average even if your time played is kind of low. For some reason they look more favorably on that, I'm guessing because that means you're not afraid to play at that level and they hope that you'll just play longer next time.
     
  6. voltron12

    voltron12 Low-Roller

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    You are probably right. The theo is all that matters and any extra play probably wouldnt hurt. If I was a 500 or higher per bet person and went down to a 25 per bet at bj then it could be a different story.
     
  7. zing

    zing Low-Roller

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    I would use my card. "Daily Average" is more important than "Average Bet" from everything I've heard.
     
  8. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Though one feeds the other, right? In most cases anyways. They always say if somebody comes in and bets $10,000 in just a few bets and leave... they are less valuable then someone that bets that $10,000 over many hours. Guessing the hit and run person might never come back?
     
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