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Discussion in 'Vegas Nightlife' started by sco5123, Feb 8, 2014.

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  1. sco5123

    sco5123 VIP Whale

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    Are most doormen trained to be rude at these nightclubs? I don't think the nightclub craze will last forever in Vegas, at least not as it is now. These doormen seriously need to fix their attitudes. It's hard to find clubs where people are not complaining how rude some doorman/bouncer was to them. :grrr:
     
  2. swuulumm

    swuulumm Low-Roller

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    guess that has something to do with the people frequenting clubs as well.
    and the overall prices at clubs.

    If you pay 15 bucks a drink inside the club and can get liquered up for free inside the casino (or at least cheaper at bars / restaurants), than people will already be buzzed when showing up at the club. Furthermore, it is 'vacation' and you won't be there again for weeks or months (or ever), so customers don't care about the long term relationship with their doorman...

    Lastly, the job description of a doorman or bouncer does, in my opinion, not include to be overly friendly or accomodating: Sure, they should be decently friendly, but their main focus should be to get everything done in an orderly fashion. After all, they are not hostesses (whatever the plural of hostess is :drunk:)....
     
  3. agentq

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    I'm a guy and actually find Vegas doormen to be fairly reasonable, compared to other cities like NYC and LA. I find that Vegas doormen are more upfront about how much it'll take to get in more quickly, etc. etc. NYC/LA doormen see themselves more as "curators" (ha) whereas in Vegas its just a pure ratio game.
     
  4. Royal Flusher

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    Yes, they are trained in the art of being rude.

    There is a Rude Doorman Academy that they train at, actually. It's a highly reputable institution. I recently told a doorman how well-trained I thought he was and I asked him if he had graduated recently from the Academy. He told me to go f*** myself.

    Next question.
     
  5. thecarve

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    He graduated summa cum laude, obviously! :thumbsup:
     
  6. lasvegas_limo_driver

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    I guess it depends on how you mean rude. I hear ppl complain all the time that a doorman was rude cause he said they needto get in line, or refused entry. Yes, they have to be rude. Imagine seeing 1000+ ppl asking for entry.
     
  7. jbball50

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    This. I've only had one problem before getting into the club in Vegas and it was at the Bank. Doorman tried to look all hard but pretty much pulled my friends and I aside and told us if we take care of him were good and can get in. Most of the time I'll get in touch with the hosts and just give them the money for how much it is for entry into the club and you don't have to wait in line or get in free depending on if I'm there with girls.

    Most of the people don't understand how it works though and wait in line for hours to get in.
     
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    People will always want a place to go to, to hang out, to drink, to meet others, to hook up, to dance, to see and be seen... I think nightclubs will be in Las Vegas forever.

    For doormen:

    Being friendly isn't really part of the job. If they are friendly and jovial and courteous and all that then its less likely people will listen to them and do as they say than if they were being big mean rude and scary.

    More importantly I think its about power: they are in control and holding all the power of all those people in line. Almost everybody is going to be sucking up, kissing his ass or wanting to be his friend... whatever it takes to get inside as soon as possible, its like they are the king of their own little domain out there and everybody that comes up is just an ass kissing lackey hoping you'll let them in.
     
  9. BiGP

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    Depends which nightclub you are at.....:wave:
     
  10. sco5123

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    That's the culture of the nightclub but it does not have to be that way. What if nightclubs were consistently happy experiences like a hotel with good service? Wouldn't people still pay the prices and follow what is being said? Everything changes at some point. If it doesn't disappear, it changes its appearance, product, etc.

    BIGP, tell me about the clubs with no rude bouncers! I had a blast at XS and everyone was nice to me. Not at Surrender...and I am trying to never repeat an experience like Surrender but when I go on yelp.com, most of the clubs talk about shady bouncers so it makes it difficult to choose a place. I will kiss no ass. I need nothing so bad especially not a nightclub. :wave:
     
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    I love the attitude. Pretty much my m.o. when I'm out there too.
     
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    I would guess the same internal attributes that would make one wanna be a club doorman in the first place contribute to the resultant attitude many exhibit while on duty. That said, it's gotta be a tougher job than it looks. Most (not all) of the people they deal with are running some type a game on them to get what they want and as stated before, are "half in the bag" while in line and they don't wanna be in line, they want in the club.
     
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    Just doing there jobs....Some are cool and some hate life just like any other walks of life.. I got to give them credit.....I watched them all night kick guys off the islands in the middle of HAZE's dancefloor, and they did it so nicely...the guys know they are not suppose to go up there.. I think after kicking the 50th guy off I would of started yanking them face first into the ground :drunk:

    Dont ask doormen to get in free,(girls or guys),for a job, or flirt with them.....and you should be ok.
     
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    I guess there are two sides of every story but what happened to have security get involved? I have seen security remove girls that had fake ids or their friends were super drunk.
     
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    I wonder how many times I could listen to some entitled little twerp ask me "Don't you know who I am?" before I got rude.
     
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    I've never had a bad experience with a bouncer or doorman.
    Yes they are upfront about certain things such as...

    Youre 5 guys and its a packed night with sold out presale tix. If they tell you, you cant get in cause of the ratio of guys to girls is 5:0. Its the truth and some people may take that as being rude or being an Ahole.

    Some patrons also come off as the ones that are aholes and dont respect the lines and others that are waiting in them. So of course bouncers and doormen wont tolerate that and will boot you out.


    I've been to most of the clubs in Vegas at over a 100 nights the past 3-4 years. I've never had one bad experience with security or doorman at all. They've all been cool and respectful.

    As with Yelp and those places that have reviews, you're always just going to hear the bad side of things. There are 2-4K people at those clubs almost every night. If they were really that bad, and if 0.025% had a bad experience and posted their reviews. There would be a dozen or so bad reviews every night.
    Its not even like that and majority of people dont ever have any negative experience with bouncers or the club.
     
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    So true.

    We ALWAYS pregame. I'm probably throwing my cup and beer bottle (or two cups) away right before I get to the entrance.

    Some people can't handle their liquor tho' and become ornery.

    What killed me once was the doorman acting like an ass at Haze rudely telling us to stop and having us wait arbitrarily (it wasn't long) when there was NO line whatsoever.

    We get inside and the club wasn't even near full. Really? really?

    What an ass. Creating an artificial "line" to make it like Haze is all that.

    It wasn't.

    Other than that, no problems with doormen/bouncer including Miami and NYC.
     
  18. worldtraveler661

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    So was he really an ass or he was just doing his job by holding up the line. Its like that at many places, especially when its early or a slow night.

    I'm not saying thats how it should be but that IS how it works in these places.
     
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    He was an ass. There was nothing holding us back to go right up to the door and he was gruff and had us move back out to the rope when were already past it while is was open.

    Plus....what line? There was no "line". Just us....two whole people.

    It was arbitrary bullshit.

    I'm not one of those people that says a club sucks due some other circumstance but Haze sucks. It has a bad layout (bar and floor). Add to that, they only played EDM but that's besides the point.

    The layout reminds me of The Joint venue where the bar is "covered".
     
  20. worldtraveler661

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    I've only been to Haze 3 times. Its really not my spot and I know they dont get busy as much as other places so I can see how they can hold up the lines.

    My go to clubs are Light, Marquee, XS. I've always had a great experience getting in through all those. I'm sure they never have lite lines there since theyre always busy. I've gotten to know some people through the years in the Vegas club scene so I've usually gone past the lines at Light and Marquee. But if I know I cant do that, I usually just get presale like at XS. And the presale line goes super quick and no hassle every time.
     
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