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Seneca Niagara

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Hotels & Casinos' started by habs0nut, Sep 8, 2012.

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  1. habs0nut

    habs0nut VIP Whale

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    Last night I decided to head down to the Falls. Last couple of outings I've stayed on the Canadian side and hit Casino Niagara which is the oldest and smallest of the three. Last night I decided to cross over to the US side and hit Seneca. I honestly don't know why this idea popped into my head as granted I've only been to it twice but I've never had a good feeling about this place. Last night just reinforced that. First problem was I couldn't find any parking and valet was full. Turns out there was a concert being held there as I found out once I finally did make it inside. Expecting the place to be packed considering what the parking situation was like, I was shocked to see it empty. Guess everyone was there to see Great Big Sea. I was down $100 after about an hour of playing some JOB and hitting a few slot machines when I decided to not waste any more time or money in this place and head back over to the Canadian side. I honestly don't know what it is about this place that gives off such a bad vibe. Could be the fact that it looks like it almost was meant to be a hockey arena originally. Drink service was non-existant. I seriously didn't see a CW the time I was there. I guess the only good thing about the place is that they have three craps tables that were still $10 minimums on a Friday night.

    After I left and crossed the border I was thinking about just heading home but decided to checkout Fallsview quickly. I got in and headed over to the table games. They are down to two craps tables. One was $15 min and the other was $25 and packed. WTF!! I grabbed a pint of Rolling Rock and sat down at a Sex in the City slot I've had some luck with. Ended up playing for about 90 minutes on in and was able to break even. At this point I had had enough and made the drive home. One thing I hate about Fallsview is it tends to be douchbag central and last night was no different. Only positive is it also tends to have some decent eye candy.

    All I can say is that I'm happy I'm going to be in Vegas very soon!!!!
     
  2. Jimbucc

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    Living in Cleveland, I make the trip to the falls when I can. I always stay on the Canadian side. I always stop at Seneca before crossing over. I like the place but am not very lucky there. Probably because I don't spend enough time there for the gambling percentages to even out.

    Fallsview is a nice casino but I probably spend most of my time at Casino Niagara. I never go on weekends or busy summer months. My wife and I honeymooned in Niagara Falls 36 years ago long before casinos were there.

    We bounce around casinos in Indiana, Detroit/Windsor, and Pennsylvania. We now have The Horseshoe in downtown Cleveland but I'm with you when you say I'm happy I'm going to be in Vegas very soon!!!!
     
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    The Indian casino, Seneca Niagara is OK, but nothing special. HOWEVER, the FREE drink service has always been pretty good for us.......UNLIKE the Canadian casinos where they say it's illegal to give away alcohol drinks.....OK, but you don't have to charge me $7 for a beer....:rolleyes2:
     
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    I love Seneca Niagara, but I usually just play limit poker. Thanks for posting parts of your gambling. I did a little video poker last trip, but the pay tables are so bad that I did not do much, and lost at what I tried.
    Live poker is not available on the Canadian side.
    I'm sure the parking was just due to the special event. I always find parking and last time parked in the casino outside lot, walked in one door, walked out another and then walked down to the Falls, and it was all free.
    Here is a trip report on my last trip this August.


    http://foxwoodspokertr.blogspot.com/2012/08/seneca-niagara.html


    Here is last year's 2011 September trip

    http://foxwoodspokertr.blogspot.com/2011/09/poker-at-seneca-niagara.html

    Here is a post on a great place to eat.

    http://foxwoodspokertr.blogspot.com/2011/09/niagara-falls-polish-platter.html


    I have probably put too much here for the average interest, but other bits of that 2011 trip are in other posts on

    http://foxwoodspokertr.blogspot.com/
    if you navigate back to september 2011 posts and look for the section with Niagara in the titles.

    I'll probably go again next August as it will fit with a meetup of old elementary school buddies.
     
  5. eloisegirl

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    My gambling pal and I enjoy Seneca because you can smoke (she's a smoker) and there are CWs so she can drink - although sometimes I do a bar run when the CWs can't be found. We also feel the slots are looser at Seneca than at Fallsview or Casino Niagara AND we have had free hotel rooms and comped meals at Seneca. Having gone to Port Perry, Woodbine, Ajax, etc, we find the American casino gives a better experience. Obviously, no handpays so no WG! We did win 800 bucks on the Wheel of Fortune (the big two-seater giant wheel) one New Year's Eve.

    We're going to MB in 3 weeks and it will be here first time in LV - can't wait to see her mind blown!
     
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    The casinos in Ontario are government run. Alcohol is also very heavily controlled in Ontario hence the reason for the pricing. It's all part of the government's social responsibility nonsense. Trust me, I can go on a serious rant about booze laws in this province but I will digress.


    Actually there is a poker room at Casino Niagara on the lower level. I don't know how good it is but something to consider on your next trip to the Falls.


    You see I'm the opposite, I find the slots at Seneca to be extremely tight whereas I've had some luck both at Fallsview and Casino Niagara (more so there). When exactly are you going to be in Vegas? I'm there Oct 5-8.
     
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    The poker room in the Canadian Casino Niagara only deals no limit poker games. Those are above my bankroll. Seneca Niagara has both 2/4 and sometimes on weekends a 3/6 game that has a half kill pushing it to a 5/10 game whenever the pot reaches $60 or more. Unlike the Vegas kill pot games, which are triggered by one player winning two pots in a row, no player is put in a position of winning just a small bit of money and seeing most of the profit pushed into the kill pot hand as a third blind.

    Brantford, Canada has poker rooms with some interesting limit games. It is on my list, but a ways to travel. The Falls is six hours from where I live, and Brantford would be another couple hours depending on the border crossing time. I may do it in conjunction with heading to Toronto to see a Blue Jays/Yankee game where the seats are reported to be very reasonable for Yankee baseball.

    Brantford is reported to have a 2-5 limit that would probably delight me, especially since they also have a 5-10 game and that would attract away from the lower level game those players who are the best, leaving me with softer competition. In limit poker the game is about the luck of the cards and table selection and the strategy focused more on the cards and the math than on the minute to minute evaluation of the opponent, tells, bluffing, etc. Without the cards, a player can't win in limit, and without players who will pay off the best hands, a winning player can't overcome the rake.

    As you can see by this discussion in the link below, limit poker is just a very different game from no limit.
    http://www.pokerforum.ca/f7/2-5-limit-brantford-17498/
    For probably the best visual comparison of limit and no limit games scroll down in that linked discussion to the photographs of women playing and it will give you a photographic but figurative idea of how the games contrast. Like the women in the last photo, no limit is just too rich for my blood.
     
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    Seneca is kind of nice if you're a smoker, but the drink service hardly exists and the place is kind of depressing.

    Fallsview and Casino Niagara are horrible, horrible places. They're the Ontario government version of what they think fun should be. Extremely high table limits, the absolute tightest slots that anybody has ever seen, no alcohol after 2 a.m. (and don't even think about ever getting a free drink- thats against government regulations). Fallsview especially is full of Ed Hardy and Affliction wearing ******bags from the suburbs surrounding Toronto thanks in part to the nightclub, Dragonfly, that has somehow survived.
     
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