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Seeding Properties for Future Offers

Discussion in 'Comps' started by KR_5150, Sep 10, 2015.

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  1. KR_5150

    KR_5150 Tourist

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    A couple of questions for the board's comp experts-

    I visit Las Vegas once a year and have used MyVegas comps for rooms the last three years, but alas that seems to have gone the way of the Dodo. Given the fact that I had rooms covered, I have typically hopped casinos without any attempt to drive room offers. I play everything under the sun from poker, craps, baccarat, 3-Card, blackjack, video poker and slots. I have a Caesars property near me as well as a Boyd property, I typically visit them twice to three times a year. My bet size is $10-25 depending on the game and momentum at table games, quarter video poker, and mostly quarter slots. I did receive a feeler offer from Mandalay Bay marketing for three nights and $75 F&B in 2014 and used that along with MyVegas offers for my trip. I currently am on the e-mail list of every casino imaginable so I see a lot of "discount" room offers, but am always looking to keep room cost at $0. I currently have a trip planned for 2016 with an off-strip casino offering me comped rooms for my stay, but want to play a little smarter to make sure I can get rooms comped for 2017. I would like to stay on-strip or near-strip if possible.

    My questions are;

    What hotels offer the best possibility of a teaser offer? (Open to Luxor/Excalibur type properties)
    What should I focus my play on at these places? (Slots/Tables/VP)
    Rather then a specific property should I focus on a parent company? (Caesars, MGM, Boyd)
    Does it make sense to talk to a host when on property, not staying but rather playing, about the potential of a future offer?

    I appreciate any info you guys/gals can provide. Sorry if this ran long, but I know people on the board always say it's easier to answer questions when the relevant information is included in the question.

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  2. bardolator

    bardolator Lifelong Low Roller

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    Don't spread your play around. Pick one place that is affiliated with a local casino you like.

    Casinos love you the most for slots because they make the most on slots.

    If you do not plan to return to the casino you booked for 2016 (I hate to say this), stiff them and concentrate your play at the place you want to go next year. When you are ready to book for 2017, call and ask what they can offer you based on your established play. Don't take promises to review your play at the end of your trip. Get it up front. When you find a host and a casino you like, be loyal, but only as long as they're giving you what you want. We have been with the same place for several years now, but we are not in love with it.

    Teaser offers- maybe someone else can help here. I haven't had one lately.
     
  3. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    When you "bounce around" and play a little here, a little there, stuff happens.

    When you go into a casino and play/eat/stay for a day, they are tracking your play. As they track your play, you are then evaluated on that play. So, depending on your level of play, you are now classified into an appropriate level of player. The now "know" what you are worth to them. And offers reflect that. Over time, with higher AVERAGE play, your value can go up.
     
  4. vegasvic

    vegasvic VIP Whale

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    Spreading your play around might get you a teaser offer now and then. I played for the first time at GVR in May and got a room comp offer in July which we used last week. Very nice. I don't play for comps, I play when and where I feel like it. I know if I concentrated my played I'd get some good offers, I do gamble quite a bit but I don't want to worry about what level I'm at, how many points I have, my tier score, etc... Whatever happens happens. I still get some deep discounted rates and that's good enough for me. But if getting a free room is important then yes absolutely concentrate your play on your targeted property.
     
  5. boxofbirds

    boxofbirds High-Roller

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    I've played small amounts at many casinos on the strip and downtown after signing up for their players cards. The only two that have given me comp room offers afterward were Downtown Grand and CET. The rest either just send me their basic marketing emails, or occasionally a discount offer with a small amount of freeplay, nothing comped. I still haven't played/signed up at Venetian-Palazzo, Wynn-Encore, and TI, so can't speak for those properties.

    I stay and play a majority of my bankroll at Mlife, specifically Aria and Mirage and I get comp offers from both of those properties.

    So, basically each approach can work, just depends on the casino and their marketing strategy.
     
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  6. leo21

    leo21 VIP Whale

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    *Teaser offers are going to come to you when you are new to the program as a whole so that depends on where you haven't been.
    *Personally, I would play my game and not try to out think the marketing program. But slot play is more attractive to companies looking for low rollers like Boyd and Caesars than some of the others.
    *For Caesars, focusing your play with the company helps, for the others you need to plant your flag at one casino.
    *You haven't mentioned a play pattern that would suggest a host would work with you.

    All that being said, my strategy for right now would be to check you Total Rewards profile and make sure you are set for marketing offers for the casinos you like. And when you visit your local Caesars, make sure you are doing more than just dropping in for a short period of time. When I do regular visits with four hours of play or more, over time, that triggers offers from Vegas and other markets I am receptive to.
     
  7. CaliWes

    CaliWes Tourist

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    About 18 months ago I played acouple grand at Wynn and they quickly gave me 3 free nights. When I took those nights and again played acouple grand they haven't given me another offer. This was mostly craps with a little slots and other table games. So maybe try them for a free room next year.

    From what others have said maybe you shouldn't sign up for every casino when you go cause they give you a teaser and then take it away unless you spend a lot during your teaser stay. Maybe just join a new one play some good money and take the free room and next time try a different one if your looking for that and depending on how much you spend.

    I have signed up for mlife but never used my card. So maybe the next time I go to Vegas I'll play a good amount there and see what happens.

    I'm mostly a cet player. I don't mind their hotels and I have no problems at their craps tables. They have given me everything I've wanted when I go (free hotel, play, limos,etc). I play a lot more now then I have in the past, but even in the past when I was low low diamond they gave me free rooms all the time. So this is a good one and they are in a lot of places.
     
  8. KR_5150

    KR_5150 Tourist

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    Thanks for the info!
     
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