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Table Games Roulette table minimum question

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by LinLV, Jul 10, 2014.

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  1. LinLV

    LinLV Low-Roller

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    Hi all!

    This just crossed my mind: in The Netherlands, a 15 euro table minimum means the chips on the roulette table are each 15 euro's minimum.

    Is it the same way in Vegas? Or does a table minimum of 15 mean you can play (for example) 3 chips of 5 dollars?
    And another question: Do you usually get a 'color' or just one-dollar (or 2, or 5...) chips?

    Thanx!

    P.s. Only 4 more sleeps, yay!!!
     
  2. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    Yes, you can play three chips of $5 in that scenario. As long as you are betting the minimum or more, they do not care how it is divided up (except on the outside bets, where you must place the minimum amount on each outside wager)

    I don't think I have ever seen anyone play dollar chips. They always get a color. If you're playing exclusively higher denominations, sometimes you get a color and sometimes you use the chips
     
  3. LinLV

    LinLV Low-Roller

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    Thank you so much! Will definitely play some roulette now I know I don't have to play chips of 15 dollars each :)
     
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    Have fun! And if you win big, let the Board know :thumbsup:
     
  5. LinLV

    LinLV Low-Roller

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    I will!!
    Might do a TR but my English isn't fluent, so I'm a little hesitant.
     
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    Fluent and hesitant are bigger words than some people use on this board!
     
  7. Auggie

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    Some stuff for roulette:

    - Most MLife casinos offer roulette lessons in the morning. You sound like you know how to play but if you have questions like this about table mechanics you might want to look in to that.
    - In Las Vegas most of the casinos the minimum chip value you can request is $1. Downtown there are some that go down to 50 cents. I've never played roulette there, but people have said that El Cortez has 25 cent roulette tables.
    - On The Strip the table minimum at most roulette tables is $10.
    - Your inside bets must add up to at least the table minimum. So you can put three chips of #5, two chips on #17, four chips on #29 and one chip on #36 - on a $10 table that would be good because together they all add up to $10
    - Your outside bets must be at at least the table minimum. So at a $10 table you can put $10 on black and $10 on even... those would be valid bets. But putting $7 on black and $3 even would not be valid wagers because though they add up to $10 each bet is less than the table minimum.
    - Likewise your inside and outside bets aren't added up. So at a $10 table putting $15 on black and then $5 on #17 - the bet on #17 would be invalid because while the outside is greater than the table minimum the inside wagers (the $5 on #17) does not meet the table minimum. And on that note putting $5 on black and $5 on #17 are both bad bets on a $10 table: neither meets the $10 minimum bet even though together they add up to $10, they aren't added together.
    - Most casinos will let you play casino chips on the outside bets. IE: if you have a green $25 chip in your pocket you could put it down on black and they most will allow that (though if the table is full and busy they might not). If you do play casino chips on the outside then you should position your chip in its spot relative to your spot on the table. IE: if you are in the southeast corner of the table and put your $25 chip on black you should put it towards the southeast corner of the black spot on the layout.
    - Not sure about playing casino chips on the inside: I've never seen anybody try, so don't know if they let you or not.
    - At the higher limit tables there might be a minimum chip value they allow at the table. On the casino floor most tables are a minimum $1 chip value - thats the smallest denomination chip you can ask for, but at some of the higher limit tables they might have a higher minimum chip value, IE: at a $100 table they might have a minimum chip value of $5 so when you sit down to play and buy in with $500 you can't ask for 500 $1 chips, but if the minimum is $5 chips then you could get 100 $5 chips.
    - And when you buy in you do get a color of chip. That color is yours at the table to use, but you can't take the chips to another table, roulette or otherwise. So if you sit down and buy in for $100 and get 100x blue chips for $1 each you can't leave one roulette table for another and start using your blue chips at another table... and especially you can't go to something like a blackjack table and start betting with them.
    - You can tip the dealer in roulette chips, they will convert them before putting them in their tip box. But you can't tip the cocktail waitress in roulette chips.
     
  8. LinLV

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    @DonnyC: Lol!
    I do have to write papers and extended abstracts in English at my university, so maybe I shouldn't be too scared to make stupid mistakes. And if I make them so be it, right?
    I'll write a TR when I come home in two weeks :)
     
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    Good luck. Pound the #30
     
  10. LinLV

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    Auggie, thank you so much! I really appreciate the detailed explanation of the rules regarding chips and putting them on the tables. The rules are slightly different here in The Netherlands, where I do play some occasional roulette. I will be much more comfortable now approaching a table and changing money. Thanx!
     
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    I wrote most of my last TR half buzzed, yours should be fine.
     
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    A picture is worth a thousand words in any language :beer: Cheers!
     
  13. golfnut

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    I tip in roullette chips all the time. I just tell them they are $5 chips when I gve it to the cocktail waitress. I'm guessing she converts them to real chips. I'm hoping they do as I usually tip three chips at once when I'm playing.
     
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    That doesn't sound right. Are you sure you can tip cocktail waitresses with roulette chips? And on top of that just tell them what they are worth?
     
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    The only way I could see it working is if you gave the waitress a roulette chip and then she immediately exchanged it with the dealer for a regular chip.

    Otherwise everybody seems to have those chip counters at the roulette tables to keep track of the player chips and if somebody is tipping in roulette chips that would alert the system to missing chips.

    As for cashing them at the cage, there are a few problems there:

    What would keep the waitress from saying the chips are of a higher denomination than they really are. IE: I'm playing $1 chips and she tells the cage that they were $5 chips.

    And there is a problem tracking the value because even if the waitress goes from the roulette table to the casino cage I could be sitting there playing $5 chips and then cash out and somebody take my place and get the same color I just had and be playing $1 chips, so the cage can't phone over to just ask "What color is the blue guy playing at AR-5?"

    And then there is the big scam possibility: waitress has friend go to table, friend buys bunch of chips for $1, friend pockets a big handful of the chips, friend gives chips to waitress later on, waitress takes them to the casino cage that day or another and says they are worth $__. Depending on how many people they want to involve and how complex they want to get it they could go so far as having somebody go to the same table as before, get the same color and buy at $25 chips and then be tipping the waitress every once in a while in these big chips so the dealer and pit boss could corroborate the story (or maybe don't even need the big player if you can find a dealer and/or pit boss to cut in on the deal).
     
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    I see why my giving the cocktail waitress roulette chips would cause problems. I never quite thought of that. However I have given them on multiple times and nobody has said boo to me about it.

    I'm guessing now that once I give them to them they probably become worthless and they just don't say anything to be nice.
     
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    Say LinLV . . . I don't know what you are used to playing in Europe, but most of the lower limit tables in the US are double zero.

    Just in case you weren't aware.
     
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    europe is single zero , the only good thing about gambling over seas

    yes most usa tables except hl are double zero
     
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    i cant see how u can tip a waitress in roulete chips unless they exchange them at the table instantly there wortkless otherwise as there only worth a certian amount for each player and then it changes
     
  20. amk121

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    When I was playing last week, I saw two of the guys at the table I was playing at, tip the cocktail waitress with chips and that is the first time I ever saw that- so I guess it is ok to do that..I have always given cash.
     
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