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Resort fee(s) a way for casino(s) to handle

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by Bernie2, May 18, 2014.

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  1. Bernie2

    Bernie2 High-Roller

    Dec 22, 2008
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    A way for casinos to handle resort fee(s) would be to give a credit with the resort fee(s).The resort fee(s) could be $10 give $10 credit (food, alcohol, show or whatever). The credit would be daily and you wouldn't have to use them daily as they would be cumulative. Whatever casino(s) does this will do quite well because of a higher occupancy rate. Therefore people would be spending more time in the casino which is exactly what they want. IMHO
  2. LV_Bound

    LV_Bound VIP Whale

    Nov 17, 2010
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    Why play games.
    Why not simply advertise "No Resort Fee"??:eek:
  3. saintpauljeff

    saintpauljeff VIP Whale

    Jan 11, 2008
    Saint Paul, MN
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    Same can be said about coupons... why not just discount the price of an item to the value of a coupon?

    Not a bad idea, some people would absolutely use the credit. People like myself maybe use it, maybe not. Meh, would depend on my trip and where I was staying.
  4. smartone

    smartone VIP Whale

    Jul 17, 2011
    Northern Nevada
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    I like the idea... it adds perceived "value" to the fee in a way the free local calls, newspapers, etc. don't for most people.
    Last edited: May 18, 2014
  5. airball1996

    airball1996 High-Roller

    Dec 16, 2009
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    Or, or or or!......OR...they could continue to charge them up front and not care what people say about them?

    Kinda like net neutrality.... No one likes it, but no one's going to do anything about it, either.
  6. dewey089

    dewey089 Guru of Value

    Aug 4, 2001
    averill park (near albany) ny
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    Here are some reasons:

    If the room is sold through a discounter broker, the broker gets a good piece of the hotel rate for selling the room, but gets nothing of the resort fee. So perhaps the hotel is able to raise the room rate less because they get the entire raise.

    The resort fee becomes another carrot on a stick to encourage gambling. Play enough and a host will waive it. How much? Ahahahahahhahahahah!!!! No one knows the answer ever to that.

    The resort fee allows the hotel to sort out gamblers from folks who just want a cheap room.

    In a price sort on a discount broker site, a resort fee will not be included in the sorting by price, so a hotel can place itself at the top part of the list even though in reality it is not there.
    Say a potential customer goes to Hotels.com and sorts for particular days. If Arizona Charlie's and the D get the same money for those nights, the D will be listed in a low to high sort much more on the top.

    Take Priceline. You can bid what you want to pay and they will give you the room at that price but only tell you the name of the hotel after you have bought it. Resort fees have nothing to do with that blind process of picking a hotel. They are added later. So you bid $20 a night, get the D and will pay $40 a night. At Arizona Charlie's $36 a night will get a two room suite.

    Some places do throw in some freebies to offset some of the resort fee. But usually the freebie is a one time deal, like $10 in food at the Orleans for a booking. The first night the $10 almost covers the resort fee. By the third night the benefit is watered down. But some buyers never figure that out.
    And advertisement works even with those who will do the math. The initial email catch is the free food offered along with a couple of drinks.
    And while it sounds reasonable that advertising "no resort fees" would help with business, that did not happen for CET, and I suspect it is not happening for anyone really. I don't see folks flocking to Eastside Cannery or the Four Queens or the Super 8 on Koval for that matter. No resort fees at any of those places.
  7. Auggie

    Auggie Dovahkiin

    Jan 8, 2009
    Burnaby, BC
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    The casinos aren't looking for a way to "handle" resort fees: They are what they are and they are here to stay.

    Complaining about resort fees was pretty big a couple of years ago, but its clear they haven't had a negative impact on people going to Las Vegas and fewer people are complaining about them now... most of the people that still complain are the cheap penny pinchers and very few businesses will survive chasing down that market share.

    Well lets see: checking the Las Vegas Convention and Visitor Authority reports typically The Strip is at a 94% occupancy rate, 97% on weekends...

    If a place charges a $25 resort fee per night and this plan actually had a positive effect on occupancy rates they might see as much as 50-75 more room nights occupied in a month and it would only cost them about $2,200,000 in freebies under your plan to get that - that works out to costing them about $30,000 per occupied night for what might translate in to about $300 per occupied night in extra revenue...

    No, the resort fees serve their purposes and they do them well:

    a) They keep the apparent price of rooms down
    If the rate for a room is $75 plus $25 per night resort fee most people will see only that $75 and it looks like a better deal. This also helps in placement for hotel room search engines when people do a "sort from low to high price"

    b) They provide people something to spend comp dollars on
    And this something costs the casino nothing. If somebody has $150 in comp dollars/express comps/rewards credits or what have you and their hotel bill has $75 in resort fees instead of spending that $75 on food or something from the gift shop they can put it towards their hotel bill and pay for resort fees.

    c) Not all casinos comp resort fees
    Before if a hotel/casino comped a room for three nights they made nothing off that room... if they don't comp resort fees then they can still give away that room for "free" but they get to collect the resort fee so they still have revenue coming from that room and the customer is happy because they are still getting a "free" room.
    And thats a lot of money: for the first three months of this year the Las Vegas area (Downtown, Strip and Boulder Highway) saw 11,792,040 occupied room nights. If only 10% of those were comped rooms where the customer paid a resort fee ($25) where they would have normally had the room totally free back before resort fees... that adds up to almost $30,000,000 in additional revenue generated where in the past none would have been and at a cost to generate that revenue of almost nothing.
  8. lithium78

    lithium78 VIP Whale

    Sep 8, 2013
    New Jersey
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    Or you could just get a TR credit card and get free Platinum status with it which allows you to waive resort fees.
    Harrah's Atlantic City for the Teachers Convention
  9. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

    May 4, 2009
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    This is really just another thread against the dreaded resort fees.

    It is what it is.

    Not gonna change it to any of the few hundred ideas that have been tossed around.

    (okay... maybe I was a bit harsh... just throwing some reality logic out there...not trying to damper any good ideas)
    Last edited: May 18, 2014
  10. Kickin

    Kickin Flea

    Aug 10, 2012
    Fortunately some enterprising fellows are developing hotel search engines to combat this, here is one that is catching on:


    You can have it add in resort fees and other fees to the results. It focuses primarily on suites in higher end hotels and I think they put in that data by hand. But where there is a market someone will try to fill it and the internet is pretty good at fixing issues of transparency. I'll put my money on the Expedias and Hotels.coms of the world eventually figuring out a way to scrub the data they need despite the hotels trying to tack it on separately.


    Jun 17, 2013
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    Or just avoid VEGAS, till they get the message with your Voting $$$.

    Naw, that's not going to happen, so guess you're stuck with it.

    Just have to SUCK it up, as part of the Vegas EXPERIENCE.

    Next Stop, Resort check in room card fees... Just you Wait......

    It's Coming.... :wave:
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