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Rating/comp question

Discussion in 'Comps' started by sevenyo11, Feb 3, 2015.

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  1. sevenyo11

    sevenyo11 Low-Roller

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    I just finished a 2 day trip at the Venetian. I was rated at 18hours 39mins at $547 a roll/hand. What can I reasonably ask from them for my next visit two weeks away?. This last trip was the first time I take them up on any offers, Super Bowl Game offer. This offer I booked has $300 free play and $100 resort credit. What is my theo? I don't have a host and have never asked for anything but extra SB party tickets.
     
  2. RiddickBull

    RiddickBull VIP Whale

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    You should of burned some comps if you only got SB tickets and room.

    I don't know how craps is rated, but ~550 avg at ~19 hours for 2 days is a good amount of theo where you could have eaten some nice dinners and bottles of wine/champagne.

    You should have talked to the host on duty before you left. Some hosts will say you have X to burn on comps. Others will not tell you much.
     
  3. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    Was it all craps?

    Dice earns way less comps than other games.

    But you can still ask for and expect a true suite @ RFB for your next trip.
     
  4. PayTriple

    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    I use an approximation method based on dollar-minutes, which assumes the games you play are rated at approximately one hand/roll per minute. You had $547 X 1,119 min = 612,093 dollars-minutes.
    At a minimum, if you played craps, you would have generated about 0.8% of that as theo, or 4,897. If you played baccarat, 1.0% or 6,121 as theo, and if double zero roulette a whopping 5.4%, or 33,053.
    Now, take 30 to 40% of the theo, and that is how much you can expect to get back in comps. CET gives back 30%, my Cosmo host gives me 40%, I don't know what the Venetian percentage is.

    I validated this method during a trip where I recorded the details of over 20 gambling sessions, and I was surprised by how accurate it was.
     
  5. sevenyo11

    sevenyo11 Low-Roller

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    Yes all craps and about 4k on slots. I didn't know that tables games didn't count towards grazie points. I am not use to asking for anything. I joined this board a few years back to look at Natedoggs pics but that's it. Not till recently I've realized that I have been cheating myself. I play craps everywhere averaging around 8+ hours a day.

    I was checking my emails and received an email from a Casino Relationship Manager saying I qualified for a host. Not sure what that entails.
    I will continue reading up on old post and see what I learn.
     
  6. Bigcash12000

    Bigcash12000 Tourist

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    You should definitely contact a host as you have been cheating yourself out of some good comps
     
  7. neuroboy

    neuroboy Low-Roller

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    I played in that range when I stayed there in 2013, and was assigned a host. I never met the host but talked to him on the phone a few times, and for the three trips I made, each time the entire bill was comped off -- including $800 dinner tab with 6 friends, spa treatments with a then girlfriend, and all alcohol and mini bar tabs. The only thing I was billed for was gratuities, which is pretty standard.

    For each trip, it was about $2000 worth of stuff that was comped off. At that time I bet $400-700 a roll on craps, so right around your play.
     
  8. PayTriple

    PayTriple The Cucumber King

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    $2000 in comps is 40% of $5000, which is the estimated theo that I calculated above, so this all fits together.
     
  9. Lanai18

    Lanai18 MIA

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    What is the comp value per night of the room in comp dollars? A suite? A nice suite? A penthouse suite?

    What is the comp value of a table with bottle at club/pool??

    Thanks guys
     
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