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Rate this comp?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Red Raider, Oct 16, 2012.

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  1. Red Raider

    Red Raider Tourist

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    Normally a slot/vp player but I played mainly craps this trip and am not sure how to figure my play.

    Just returned from a 3 night stay at Aria. Corner suite with 150.00 Food credit per day and 175.00 FP & limo transportation.

    17.25 hours played at $128 average & $38,000 coin in for the trip.
    I only used 280 of the 450 food credit, the room & limo both ways but did not use the free play.

    My question is did my play justify the upfront comp?
     
  2. mike_m235

    mike_m235 Tourist

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    I think it's pretty close, yes. 17 hours is a lot for 3 days. If you had given them the standard 12 hours for 3 days, it would equate to $184 over 12 hours. Some people might call that low for a corner suite, and I'm sure Aria would officially call it low -- but with the extra coin in I think you've got it covered.
     
  3. dankyone

    dankyone VIP Whale

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    My sense is they would tell you you were short given the craps play but probably about on target given the additional slot play.

    My question is why you left $170 in food and $175 in free play on the table! It does not benefit you in the future to have not used these offer components on your last trip.
     
  4. JosieCat

    JosieCat VIP Whale

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    Could you clarify what you mean by this. Everyone is always taking about primary comps. When people complain about offers, others say maybe it's because they were "over-comped" on your last trip. So isn't it better to not spend primary comps that you don't need.

    Although, I gotta say, free play is what I live for - I can't imagine leaving $175 in unused free play :)
     
  5. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    no, it's never better not to spend what's offered to you in hopes that later you'll get something better. that's too big of a risk for something that might happen, but totally might not. in the comp game always take everything you can take right now and worry about next trip later. leaving all that F&B and FP on the table is certainly a strange move.
     
  6. dankyone

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    My understanding in the MGM world is this: If you ask at the end of your trip for your play to be evaluated, and they are NOT going to pick up any of your charges beyond what your upfront offer was and what your ECs get you--they say you were "overcomped." This means that your theo on the current trip did not generate enough discretionary/primary comps to cover what the hotel considers the value of your upfront offer.

    This does not mean you won't get another offer, in fact it might be the very same offer the host told you constituted "overcomping" the last time.

    On this board, many people have used the term a bit differently. They often refer to others as "possibly overcomped in the past" meaning they were getting used to offers from MGM at a particular level of play which now require a higher level of play. They seem to be referring to a period (roughly late 2008-2010) when MGM had loosened criteria and intentionally "overcomped" people relative to normal times given soft demand in Vegas.

    While confusing, I think these different uses of the term "overcomped" are distinct and make sense in the context they are used. I personally believe that failing to use any upfront comps offered does NOT translate into better rewards down the line--future offers are based on PLAY on past trips, not whether the casino believes you were over/undercomped on past trips. If they think you are overcomped every time--you are squeezing all the value you can out of the comp system. If you do what the OP did, I feel you are just leaving money on the table.
     
  7. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    I understand maybe leaving some food comps on the table, as you may just not want to eat anymore.

    Leaving freeplay is, well... insane. I would never, ever leave any of that for them.

    Totally perplexed at that decision.
     
  8. waspie

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    leaving FP on the table does seem to be strange.

    as for F&B, I'm SFB and there's been a few times at checkout that the front desk tells me "there's still space on your SFB. are you sure you don't want to eat something else before we check you out? or maybe go back to the suite and grab something from the mini bar?".

    makes me wonder how much I'm leaving on the table because I do utilise the fine dining options at Bellagio / Aria pretty extensively.
     
  9. Red Raider

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    Thanks for the answers. I dont understand how they rate craps can anyone give me a formula?

    Not using the free play was an oversight on my part. I normally activate it as soon as I get there and let my wife play it but did not do that this trip and never thought about it again until we were at the airport. We left some of the food credit because we went off strip for dinner on Sunday night and we only eat breakfast and dinner while in Vegas.
     
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