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Video Poker Question for you VP folks

Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by weluvvegas, May 14, 2013.

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  1. weluvvegas

    weluvvegas Vegas Slot Junkie

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    I've been playing the "best of video poker" app on my phone -- JoB, 8:5 pay (just to make it realistic lol) and after around 350 hands, I was at an 86% accuracy on correct hands played. I never hit anything big, and no royals.

    I see you all posting these huge wins and I know that for most of you, besides table games, VP is your game of choice.

    The question is....how do you do it? Is it just as volatile in the real world as it is on the app? I always give it a go at least once per trip but even on $.25, I lose my money so fast. I must be doing something wrong.
     
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  2. Kickin

    Kickin Flea

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    Yes on VP you're going to lose your money really fast a lot of times and you will lose most of the time, more often than you would with most table games statistically speaking. Sometimes those small/medium hands can keep you afloat or even ahead but usually you'll need those rare big hands to get your into positive territory.

    And yes it may seem like people are always posting huge wins but that's only because no one posts all the more numerous times they lost or even how much they were down that trip before the win. You can easily be down enough during a trip where even a royal wouldn't put you in the black.

    Its called the crack-cocaine of gambling for a reason. Its no good for you but you'll keep coming back for more.
     
  3. Royal Flusher

    Royal Flusher Savvy Gambler

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    "how do you do it?..."

    Simply, by playing as close to perfect strategy as possible, and by playing a lot of hands.

    Royals come on average once every 40-some thousand hands.

    I play probably three or four thousand hands of VP a day when in Vegas, maybe more, and Mrs. Flusher plays more than that because she is fast.

    My blog posts always highlight the agony and the ecstasy. And that's just the bathroom.

    I also post about losing days and winning days.

    I think someone (maybe Jean Scott) said that you should expect on average for 2 out of 3 VP sessions to be losers. I think that is true.
     
  4. Guardian

    Guardian Low-Roller

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    Keep practicing. You need to be a lot better than that for any hope of winning. Find a good VP trainer app and get your accuracy to at least 98%.
     
  5. sandman748

    sandman748 Low-Roller

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    85 JOB is a 97% game. Depending on how accuracy is measured on your app, your expected return drops to 83% (assuming accuracy is measured in terms of EV, rather than whether or not the hand was played correctly) .

    I'm not trying to discourage you from playing VP, but with that paytable and your measured accuracy, you are better off playing the penny slots.

    If you concentrated your effort into improving your play, you would see significantly better results over the long term.

    Let me expand further with an example. Let's say your playing a 100% return game (you not, so real world numbers will be worse than this example) and your playing 5x.25 for 1.25 at a rate of 500 hand per hour = $625 per hour. Every 1% drop in accuracy will cost you $6.25 per hour in return. With an 86% accuracy, you would expect to lose $100 an hour, long term, even accounting for hitting royals no more or less than average.
     
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