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Primm Valley golf

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by celticnoel79, Mar 5, 2014.

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  1. celticnoel79

    celticnoel79 Low-Roller

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    So the Mrs and MIL will be visiting the casinos and shops at Prinn on our upcoming trip. My question would be to fellow golfers out there which course to play near there? I've came across Primm Valley golf course, both the Desert and Lakes course look great but is one better than the other or are there better courses near by? The price looks very decent also, cheers for any response :beer:
     
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    I have played the Desert and Lakes courses many times. Both courses are quite good.

    I heard last week that the Lakes course is in much better condition.
     
  3. celticnoel79

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    Cheers, it was the lakes course I was swaying towards. Handy that it's only a few mins away from the outlets also :thumbsup:
     
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    Internally, Lakes is more of a Carolina-in-the-pines effect, though of course when you look up or out you of course are in the Mojave. Desert is more, well …

    In the 15 or so years I've been playing there, my allegiance has flipped, mostly based on the playing aesthetic. In many ways, you could flip the cloak surrounding each and get a similar result, but golf often is as much about the stuff on the margins and in your eye. I will say Desert is more risk/reward.

    I love both. Can't comment on current conditions. All else equal, seems to me someone not from these parts might get a bit more kick out of Desert.
     
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    I've only played desert, and loved it. I had a really good round, partly because it felt like mis-hits to the left and right were funneled back toward the fairway center. Yhat being said the Lakes is more $$ to play, so that's gotta tell you something.
     
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    So by that logic we all should play Rio Secco, for instance, since it costs more than Primm? :wink2:

    Lakes gets the boost because they are selling "Fazio." Though he designed both, Lakes "looks" like a Fazio course. It's also more expensive to maintain.

    Paiute's long done that with Wolf, though the pricing gap has narrowed.
     
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    Decisions, decisions. Since I'm only going to be playing one course I'd defo like to play the best but I realise my 'best' might be different to other folks 'best'. I like a great looking course that's pleasing on the eye but is also well maintained and fairly challenging.
     
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    I used to play one of the courses every time on my drive in from LA. I have gotten older and the 5 or so hours in the car, early wake-up and 4 hours on the course get tougher so it's been a couple years.
    That said, I know them both well and you have received good descriptions.
    The Lakes has a reputation as a mini-Shadow Creek and is the more glamorous of the two. The Desert definitely is more of a shot makers course and is obviously more representative of the Vegas environment. Lakes also is known for its funnel fairways. It's the in the bunkering and greens where Fazio defends these courses.
    The practice areas were always a huge plus for me. Great options there.
    It's really a win-win.:drunk:
     
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    "Best" is very subjective. I'm an average player, skill-wise. But I write about golf courses and golf travel for a living. Here's what's important to me:

    Money: I don't default to least expensive, I don't give high marks simply because someone prices his course as if it were a Monet. I believe in high value.

    Aesthetic: If I'm in the desert, particularly if I wasn't from a desert environment, I'd not want to think I'm playing in Florida. So while a Shadow Creek or a Primm Lakes both are pretty close to top-10ers in the area, I'd look to something different, personally, which is why you see so many of us who golf all over the area and have for a long time consistently going back to Paiute, Coyote Springs, some of the Mesquite/St. George courses (to name a few) over a Rhodes Ranch or a LV National (to name a few).

    Conditioning: What most of the world would consider proper course conditioning most in the states would laugh at since we've defaulted to the absurd conclusion that over-greened and over-fertilized and over-watered is a good thing. All equal, you'll find our courses wet dart-boards; well, wait, come here to coastal CA in a drought and I'll show you wonderful firm and fast-running conditions right now. But the point is, in American resort golf, emerald green is considered prime. Of course, what you want to avoid is something dead, punched, scalped, sanded. Courses are living breathing entities, and something in great shape can in a month be a goat patch. Again with the all-equal concept, the caliber of course you are considering will have rather interchangeable conditioning on day-in, day-out, barring some catastrophe. (I can find someone to say something bad about the conditioning experienced at any course in Vegas.)

    Challenge: Played from the ability-appropriate tees, any course in discussion here -- and any number of others -- ain't gonna bore anyone. But what is challenge? I find that most of the people who do what I do for a living, full time, as golf journalists, actually never really deal with concepts like slope and rating or even yardage beyond simply being a benchmark.(And the most idiotic phrase still used by some, and particularly by PR weenies??? "Championship" course. Oh wait, that and "links-like.") Equipment has improved tenfold in recent history and yet as a group none of us are improving. Says something about the inherent difficulty in the game we all love.

    If you can get your hands on my Vegas golf guidebook you'll have a good idea why I like what I like and why I rank courses as I do. (And I love Primm in that book and have in my subsequent writings, just so you don't think I'm dissing the property.)
     
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    This guy has good golf smarts.
     
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    Thanks Ken, from one whom I respect that is very well received.:beer:
     
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    Lakes it is, and I also plan to play a round a Puite Wolf while there too :beer:
     
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