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Plaza vs. MSS

Discussion in 'Downtown Hotels & Casinos' started by imheids, Jul 2, 2014.

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  1. imheids

    imheids Tourist

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    Looking for some help! We have plane tickets for the week after Labor Day, and still waiting to see if rooms come down in price. We usually stay at the Rio, but the comps just aren't there. So, we are thinking of stepping out of the box and looking at Plaza vs. MSS. We have a Saturday arrival day, so CET properties are a definate NO for Saturday. We also like to spend much time at Boyd properties too. Advise please
     
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    What are you looking for in the property? Rooms? Food? Gaming? Price?
     
  3. jh46

    jh46 Low-Roller

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    I have no experience with the Plaza but I have often seen "no Saturday arrivals" at MSS. I know I have tried before using an offer but nope, they wouldn't allow it. I think maybe it is because lots of their Hawaii vacations groups arrive then.
     
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    If you have a decent gambling history you might be able to talk Feadolphus (he's a Plaza host - that's his screen name on VMB) into comping you a couple nights up front. He has been really helpful, and the Plaza has made a few changes based on the input of VMB members.

    Otherwise you really can't go wrong with a Boyd property. Rates, gambling and food options are always good. I've stayed at MSS a half dozen times. No major complaints. I like their brewery, video poker and bar.
     
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    M0rtyC Low-Roller

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    Not a fan of the plaza. If not MSS maybe Fremont? I've stayed at MSS many times and love the place.

    If you have Boyd history, a call to a host couldn't hurt
     
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  6. Joe

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    We have probably stayed at MSS 100+ times.
    Pro:
    $5 craps with 20x odds
    9/6 JOB at all the bartops
    Good craft beer
    Friendly personnel
    Good food at 777 & the buffet
    Boyd B Connected card is good at MSS, Cal & Fremont
    $1.75 tapper at MSS and $1 margaritas, 24/7
    Con:
    Some here complain about the train and freeway noise.
    Others that you can't close the wooden shutters to darken the room enough.

    Plaza, even though I am a fan of MSS, the new rooms are nicer at Plaza.
    Decent sportsbook
    There are more food options at Plaza, but everything is so close downtown, not sure that matters.

    Casino: Dead! There is just no vibe and usually empty.
    Overpriced beer in the beer garden.
    They have a bank of full play VP, but you earn zero points playing them.
     
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    Before you overthink this MSS/Plaza dilemma you might want check to see if rooms are available with a Saturday arrival at MSS. I checked kayak searches and even went to the MSS site; so far I don't see any available rooms with a Saturday Sept 6 arrival. Friday seems to be sold out also. That may change as it gets closer to Labor Day but no guarantees.

    Kayak searches show available rooms at the Plaza for Saturday (Sept 6) night.

    As for looking at the Plaza vs MSS, if you are going to spend a lot of time at the boyd properties you may want to consider staying there, it is possible that you may get some comps or reduced rates based on your play, if you stay at the Plaza but play at the Boyd properties you probably won't get anything from the Plaza IMHO.

    But if the rates including resort fees are much lower at the Plaza or other places then I might stay at the Plaza or elsewhere but still play at the Boyd properties. I did that with my 6 night stay in June, I stayed at the El Cortez and saved myself over $130 versus staying at the MSS or Cal. But then I also stayed at the EC because I booked before the resort fees took effect and with the added fees I might not stay there again, opting for the Boyd hotels (until they also start charging resort fees). It cost me only $161 for the 6 night stay, including all taxes and fees so it was almost double to stay at MSS or the Cal when you include taxes.

    As for the hotel itself, as others mentioned, the rooms at the Plaza are more recently renovated and nicer than the MSS rooms IMHO. Plaza rooms also have an electronic safe (MSS has a wall safe that requires a key), flat screen HD tv with many channels and HD (I think they have direct TV or some other service, MSS only has the standard channels, no HD). The Plaza has a huge sports book (none at the MSS, a small one at the Cal). The Plaza has a big pool to cool off in (MSS has the small pool at the Cal). Tables at the Plaza aren't as busy as at MSS and there are a number of eateries at the Plaza (incl McD's and subway). MSS has the walkway to the Cal so you can eat at many places there also.

    I don't think you can go wrong with either hotel so it comes down to whether you can get comps or reduced rates for your stay and whether you want to walk the block to the Boyd hotels (not easy when you are tired or drunk, lol).
     
  8. progrocker2112

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    I think Jimboguy asked them about being sold out that weekend and apparently a block of rooms were sold for some basketball tournament that's in town. I'm arriving that day and since planning on spending Sunday at the Plaza sports book betting/watching football anyways I just went ahead and decided to give them a shot.
     
  9. mescalita

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    Try Four Queens or El Cortez(avoid the Pavilion rooms) - both usually accept Saturday arrivals, and both have decent rooms and rates.
     
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