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playing for offers downtown?

Discussion in 'Downtown Hotels & Casinos' started by kitson, Jan 13, 2014.

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  1. kitson

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    after a many year absence from staying downtown, will be there for four nights february 12th through the morning of the 16th, when we will move to harrahs because it is closer for attendance at our trade shows. our total cost at harrahs is 47 plus tax, for the 5 nights, with the charge on sunday night the 16th, and the other nights free, and no resort fee because of the credit card signup.

    so, it is sort of stupid that we are spending over 320 dollars for the wed.-sat night stay at the golden nugget, but i really want to stay downtown, and i really want to get better offers from the golden nugget, and i prefer the golden nugget poker room, but also wind up with some free room offers for later on from main street station, four queens, downtown grand and the d. last time i was downtown, the d was still fitzgeralds, and the downtown grand was boarded up. so i am just assuming they are nice, and maybe a place i would stay free vs. paying 39 a night or something like that at golden nugget.

    so, does anyone have any suggestions, or an idea of amount of coin in or time played, to restart me getting offers from these properties. will of course sign up for a players card at d and downtown grand, is there any advantage of doing that in advance online?
     
  2. TIMSPEED

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    I can only speak of MSS...but the wife gave $3000 coin-in sometime last year, and now she's getting 3 nights free anytime from now till at least April 1st...
     
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    A couple of hours on a .25 machine will probably get you a room offer and some free play at the 4 queens.
     
  4. dewey089

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    I don't know anything about Golden Nugget comps, but everything I have read says that they are the tightest (in downtown )in giving comps and the machines are tighter. Certainly the VP is very poor.
    So I skip the Golden Nugget.
    I get comped at the Four Queens and then play poker at the Golden Nugget. Playing poker there will not get you any room comps, in fact, you are not even tracked. Four hours will get you a $10 food voucher that has to be used that day (or the next if it is very late in the night) They used to change dates if you missed using it, but now they don't. You just ask for this after you have been there 4 hours. You keep track of the time. They believe you. If you are playing late at night, ask for the next day's date. They usually accommodate. Or play until after midnight. Buffets are pricy on Saturday and Sunday, but weekdays the voucher will mean paying a dollar and change for breakfast.


    Weekday Hours:
    •Breakfast (7:00 a.m. - 10:30 a.m.) $10.99
    •Lunch (10:30 a.m. - 3:30 p.m.) $13.99
    •Dinner (3:30 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.) $19.99

    Weekend Hours:
    •Friday through Sunday, enjoy the Seafood & More Dinner (3:30 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.) for just $23.99.
    • Saturday and Sunday Champagne Brunch (7:00 a.m. -
    3:30 p.m.) $19.99. This is the worst deal, but any buffets on weekends have the prices raised. There may be some reduction if you don't take champagne.

    I eat there, expensive or not, when I am downtown because their food choices allow me to stay on my strict diet. There are plenty of good fruits. Salmon for breakfast makes the meal for me. I used to love Main Street Station, but now nothing they serve is really on my diet.

    The unusually nice thing about getting comped at the Four Queens is that they offer 3 nights and weekends are included. I get those from playing DB 10/7 which is full pay plus a progressive royal. Along with the rooms, play on these will earn some cashback and freeplay. Even the freeplay can be used on the player advantage 10/7 game. It must be the best mathematical deal downtown overall.
    I also think their slots are looser. I don't play much slots. Once in a while I play a little Megabucks and I like to play their nickel single zero roulette just for fun. My slot play is not driving my offers. My VP drives them. Some trips I get 6 free nights that cover two of my weekends. There are two ways to do that.
    The easiest is to plan a trip that overlaps a calendar month. So my last trip I had three free nights in October, went to the D, and then had the first three nights free in November. I don't know if you could book back to back.
    Another way is to check to see when they have a slot tournament weekend. There too you can get three free nights, plus the free tournament which includes a little free food and usually a nice gift. You can book the tournament weekend and still book 3 free nights on your offer. Again, I have never tried to book back to back because I use the Four Queen freebies to cover weekends and fill inbetween with cheap weeknight rates at the D or out Boulder or at El Cortez on an ACG coupon.
    I also like it that I can just call the Four Queens host office and anyone there will look up my mailed offers. Sometimes they know of them before I do. They are mailed fairly late, and that is frustrating for planning, but I don't have to actually get the mailing to book. I'm a snowbird in Florida, so I don't often get mailings in the winter.
    By the way Binions will offer a poker rate at the Four Queens. If you take it and play poker at Binions BUT DO NOT put any money in machines at the Four Queens, your Four Queens daily average will not be affected by your Binions generated stay. So you could stay in the same room (or at least the same casino) for your entire stay.
    I can't seem to win at Binions, so I put the Four Queens back to back with two for one offers from the D based on their Vue bar VP play (8/5 bonus with three progressives) It is an easy check in and check out then. In fact, it is so close that I don't have to carefully repack because I can easily make two trips.
     
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    A few hours a day playing $10 BJ at 4-Queens, any Boyd casino and Golden Gate/'theD', will get you mailers with free nights (+other stuff).

    The Nugget will only rate your play at $25 & up. So, for table games anyway, the Nugget is the toughest.

    With 4-Queens, they will drop you from the mailers pretty quick if you're not giving them several hours of daily play when staying there on a comp. I found this out the hard way.

    Boyd is, in my opinion, the most generous downtown with their room offers versus the amount of play necessary. Once you're in their system & signed up at their 'bconnected' website, you will get room offers every month, so long as you give them some decent play when staying there. I haven't stayed at a Boyd hotel for awhile, but I always give them some play every trip...and I still get monthly room offers (+ a $10 meal credit).

    As for signing up for the player's cards in advance? I don't think there's any advantage. If you're a table game player, just give them your DL at the table & they'll bring your new card to you, plus plug in (a generous?) amount of playing time.

    If you're a machine player, it might be easier to get the card in advance, and skip the player's club waiting line at the casino.

    Good luck.

    (PS - I've found that the best way to get rooms at the Nugget is through the airlines' "vacation-packages". Last time I stayed there, it was booked through American Airlines Vacations, and my total cost (for 2) was only $30 more than airfare alone for 2...and that was for three nights.)
     
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    Wow Dewey! As usual, you're a wealth of information! Golden nugget doesn't have a poker room rate anymore huh? That's sad to hear.
     
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    I can echo the relative generosity of MSS when it comes to room comps. I was a regular for some time, then life circumstances prevented me from visiting for several years (talk about agony) but those monthly mailers kept on coming. Of course when I was back on my feet, I took them up on their offer at my first opportunity. So I guess their persistence paid off, for both of us. Cheers and good luck.
     
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    I had a more sporatic time with MSS comps. For a while I had them and then they dried up. But most report good deals there. They have great VP.

    Hi, Josh, glad something I wrote helped.
    Golden Nugget only has a poker rate when there are special events going on in the poker room. That is what they told me. I'm not certain how it works then, perhaps the room rates would be packaged with some tournament play. They don't keep any record of your play on player's cards.
    On the other hand, I've never asked one of the workers there. That would be a good experiment on a day when someone played a long while. At Foxwoods you can ask and often get a rate.
    However, when I go to Vegas, I need to know where I am staying and be booked. I can't depend on last minute offers.

    So Binions would be the only place downtown with a poker rate for rooms at the Four Queens. However, the rates are not that wonderful. I can usually beat them pretty easily with VP play at the D and the Four Queens. But if I needed to flesh out some booking, I might make that deal, or if I was booked out Boulder and for some reason did not want to make the bus ride. Rarely would that happen. Two trips ago I rubbed my toes into raw blisters with the wrong shoes. But I solved that problem by picking up some open toed "shower shoes" with a hard plastic base and a strap over the center of my foot, so I shuffled along wherever I wanted anyway. Well, I did not hike Red Rock, but I could walk to buses and ride even with luggage as long as I managed to keep the suitcases off my toes.
     
  9. mwig

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    I echo what everyone is saying regarding MSS and 4Q. I think 4Q is the easier room comp but upfront food comps are harder.

    A couple of additions:

    The D has a great sign up deal if you play VP. It equates to 1% cash back on your first 1000 points. That would be $10,000 coin in. If you aren't a new sign up, this deal can be had via coupons from ACG and LVA. I only played through $3500 coin in and I am receiving offers of 3 nights, $50 free play, $25 match play and $25 food. They have 10/7 DB at quarters and NSUD up to $1. Both are positive expectation on this deal.

    Golden gate has terrible video poker. I had a coupon for free pancakes at Dupar's for earning 25 points which equals $100 coin in. Well worth the pancakes as they are very good. My wife and I played the exact requirement and are each receiving mailers for 3 nights and, $10 free play and $15 food.
     
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    I have a $200-$300/day budget for video poker and slots. Over three days at El Cortez that gets me an offer I can use every month: three free nights in a Cabana super suite (including weekends), $75 freeplay and $75 dining credit. Plus I have 5X points on the day of my choice. This was after my second stay there. First stay got me offers for a free tower room and $25/$25, plus their bimonthly newsletter with more coupons (double-points days and 2-for-1 entrees in the coffee shop).
     
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    What credit card? How does that work?
     
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    There's a harrahs total rewards credit card that offers automatic diamond status for one year for new sign ups. There's a thread about it somewhere here in the forums.....maybe the frugal section?
     
  13. kitson

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    thanks to all of you for your input, keep it coming!

    i do plan to ask a host at go;den nugget the night before my stay is over if he can take care of some of the room charge, the saturday night is really high. with other offers i have gotten since from harrahs, i could probably make all nine nights up there and save a couple hundred dollars, but since we are there for 9 nights, i do want to change things up, and treat this part of the stay more as a vacation than a working trip, which it is later on, and will play some there, though it might be more table games and poker rather than vp.

    thanks dewey, especially for the info on the food voucher.

    plan on playing significantly at the d and at the downtown grand. i am under the impression, i think from another thread, that the golden gate and the d have the same ownership? if that is true, does the old club 1906 card valid anymore, or will i get a new cardholder bonus for signing up at the d? or is it golden gate and downtown grand with common ownership?

    will play some at 4 queens, if the vibe is right, though i concur with others that dealers and staff there are lacking in personality, and that offers from them come hot and heavy for a little while, and then nothing.

    in the past year i have stayed and played at gold coast some, so am getting some mailers from bconnected, but it seems like the mailers are gold coast, or gold coast and orleans, without much from downtown.

    if one plays at any of the downtown boyd properties, with mss my most likely, does one start to get offers for all the downtown boyd hotels? i thought i had put significant coin in a couple years ago at mss, when we downtown for a day to have a meet with joe, but have only gotten a couple underwhelming mailers since.

    does anyone recall seeing any big split poker machines in their recent visits downtown?

    the offer on the credit card, which they made as i finished a phone booking on the harrahs portion of t he trip, bumps one up to platinum, for a year, and when i got the official notice a couple weeks after saying ok to the offer, i had to call the harrahs booking office back and get the resort fees removed...a little hassle, but well worth it.
     
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    Club 1906 and the D are separate players clubs. I don't know if there are plans to combine. You would be eligible for new sign up offers at the D.

    Boyd assigns a "home" casino based on where you play and that is where most of your offers come from. You can switch your home at a bconnected desk. I will add a supposedly to that statement. My wife gets most of her offers from the Orleans and we have tried to switch the home to Suncoast several times. Suncoast is where most of the play on her card happens with an occasional poker tournament at the Orleans.
     
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    I LOVE this game. It is represented in Las Vegas by only 2 machines at Planet Hollywood, to my knowledge.

    Unless you were a Fitz member, I believe.

    :beer:
     
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    Boyd denotes a "home" casino for their players. I was transfered to The Orleans from Stardust. Typically, you will receive offers only from your home casino. However, if you run some decent coin through ($5K/night low end, or $10K/night higher end), you'll get offers beyond your "home" casino. You can go to the Boyd Players Club desk or to a host at your preferred location and they will change your "home" casino to your preferred choice.

    For $10k-$15k coin in per day, I've gotten rooms + food anywhere (though was never issued a "gold card" as well as tournaments at Fremont while The Cal has offered rooms + nominal (combined $50-$100) food and/or free play, and also some tournaments. I'll play at MSS as well, but prefer to stay in the more quiet California rooms. I ceased getting Fremont offers when they began sending California offers. I believe you get offers from the most recent downtown and off-strip (Sams Town, SunCoast, Gold Coast, Orleans) place you played, but you may get offers from multiple properties within each geographic area if you spread significant play through multiple casinos.

    I also put in about higher coin in (I believe I earned 36K tier points) during a two night flier Orleans stay, and they send offers for tournaments as well as $200/250 FP or Macys gift cards. I also get Gold Coast offers - you can get a suite and nice comps for some decent BJ (green chip) and/or VP play.

    If your gambling budget is for less than $10k/night, you may get room only or discount room offers from Boyd downtown, but you'll likely get free rooms and free play at Four Queens for the same level of play. I like the Boyd rooms much better (FQ needs to do some major work in some of their rooms).

    Other posters also noted The D has sent out first time feeler offers to people who put in a few hours play during a previous trip.
     
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    Hi,
    Have you thought about staying and playing at the Plaza Hotel & Casino? Maybe I can offer you something that would work for you. Private message me and give me a try. :cheers:
     
  18. LeaninBack916

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    The "with only 10-15k coin in a day" makes me feel like a 99-percenter and I make in the neighborhood of 100k (gf makes 50k) and my usual bankroll is about 1k on trips to Vegas. Only roll with $500-600 when I go to Reno.

    I guess I'm just really cheap. I love to gamble but I only allot that much and I've never reached for more. Lol.
     
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    Hmmm you should message me. On another note: I love your RAT PACK avatar.
     
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    We also look at loyalty as well. We like to see guests always choose us when they gamble. In my case, I want loyal guests coming to Plaza and Las Vegas club whenever they come to Las Vegas. We want a big family. lol :cheers:
     
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