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Playing for future hotel offers

Discussion in 'Comps' started by jlevandowski, Mar 10, 2014.

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  1. jlevandowski

    jlevandowski Low-Roller

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    I'm heading to vegas over the first round of march madness and staying at my normal properties that I receive comp hotel offers from (MSS and Orleans).

    For this trip I was thinking about doing some play on the strip to generate future comp room offers.

    I'm strictly a $25 per hand blackjack player.

    What would be some of the properties on the las vegas strip that I could give a little play to (1 or 2 hours) this trip and expect to generate future comp room offers. Then when I take them up on the offer I'll play my normal 4 hours per day.
     
  2. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    CET is very quick to send out return offers for new players.

    MGM, not so much.
     
  3. Viva Las Vegas

    Viva Las Vegas Ramblin' Gamblin' Man

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    For quarter blackjack, you may get a teaser rate from the from the following Strip/near Strip properties:

    Decent chance
    Excalibur (comp or discount rate)
    LVH (former Las Vegas Hilton)
    Gold Coast
    Riviera

    Possible chance
    Tropicana
    Stratosphere
    Treasure Island
    Cosmo

    CET and most MILFe casinos won't care about that level of play for 1-2 hours. You have a better chance with an independent casino desperate for players. If you can play 3-4 hours for your session, you have a better chance of locking in a future teaser comp offer, assuming you have no players history at the casino you select. I've received comp offers from Excalibur after a random 2 hour 1-2 quarter chip session.

    MGM Grand and Bellagio offer the best quarter games, with the possibility of Stand 17 during slower weekday mornings and afternoons. You may get a casino rate at MGM Grand, but Bellagio didn't care about by $75 rated action over a decent number of hours and cut out comps for green chip when Vegas bounced back in 2010-11.

    LVH has a consistent 2 deck quarter game at all times (DAS, H17, No Surrender).

    One final possibility is Cosmo, which continues to throw out random 2 night weekday offers for my former green chip play (have returned twice).
     
  4. NYPoker

    NYPoker Tourist

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    Last year I played about 5 hours rated at $35 a hand blackjack at Bellagio. Have got absolutely no offers. So I can tell you that you most likely won't get anything there.
     
  5. pressitagain

    pressitagain Low-Roller

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    The first question that I would have to ask is: What is your history on the strip?

    If you have any kind of history (at any of the casinos) at that rate... I wouldn't count on any comp offers.

    If you don't have a history... you could generate a comp offer at a mid to lower tier hotel, as a teaser offer.
     
  6. lithium78

    lithium78 High-Roller

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    As others have mentioned, CET is probably your best bet. I regularly game with them now, but originally, they offered me a deeply discounted room after only 27 tier credits of play on a day I was passing by on my way somewhere else. They offer comps like candy.
     
  7. Seany D

    Seany D Tourist

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    Question for you guys who have mentioned previous history with a hotel not being conducive to receiving future comp offers...

    I haven't gambled in Vegas for about 7 years. When I did I was all over the board with bets of $5-$500 and would only play 20 min here, 20 min there, much like a crackhead lol. I did this at all the major CET and MLife properties. I never really got any comps or offers but I am in the system.

    I've got a trip coming up in June, staying at Flamingo, and was planning on playing quite a bit at CET properties as that is most appropriate for my level of play, which will be primarily craps and will no longer consist of me stumbling around drunk dropping purple chips on a whim. I'll be playing 5-10 on the pass line and come bets, max odds and like to keep at least 4 numbers working at any time.

    Any suggestions for getting recognized at CET? Should I play somewhere else that I'm not in the system? It's important to me that I get some future discount room offers from one of these Vegas players clubs. I'm not too picky where but would like to be on the strip or perhaps downtown. Any suggestions or thoughts on this would be appreciated.
     
  8. BayouBengal

    BayouBengal VIP Whale

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    Cosmo hasn't thrown me a bone whatsoever. I was rated at $30/hand for 8 hours. All I got a couple weeks ago was an offer for 2 Wicked Spoon buffets if I booked two nights. At their normal rates.....not much of a deal.:Þ This offer was only a week or so after I did the said gambling. Maybe that offer wasn't based on that latest play?
     
  9. pressitagain

    pressitagain Low-Roller

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    After reading about how poorly CET comps table players...I play exclusively at MGM properties. So, I will speak to that.

    Judging by your 5-10 pass line number...I would assume that you probably have anywhere from $80 to $100 on the table at any time. That would be good for mid to lower tier MGM properties like MC, NYNY, Excalibre and Luxor. They offer, the lower limit tables.

    For you, it's all about consistency. If you can establish consistency of time and money they will rate you fairly and probably offer you some decent future comps.

    Dropping purples on a whim usually won't get rated. Unless, you get on a major winning streak that draws their attention. That's an entirely different ball game.
     
  10. sindustry

    sindustry VIP Whale

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    TI is fairly generous in sending offers.
    Venetian has been sending offers on very little play (teaser).
    Cosmo has been sending offers on little play (teaser)
    Low level CET properties (ie - Quad) will give you offers fairly quick.
    Almost every casino may send you a teaser offer after your initial play.
    Spend a day and play around at some of the properties you would like to stay at in the future and see what happens.
     
  11. Royal Flusher

    Royal Flusher Savvy Gambler

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    Wynn has tended to send some 'come back!' teaser offers on very little initial play.
     
  12. fadetheseven

    fadetheseven High-Roller

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    I spent about a year trying to work the CET comps playing dice. My average was ~$50-75 still get offers for 2 comped nights at their lower tier props. I haven't played at a CET prop in a year.

    Don't play for comps. Just play where you want at a level you feel comfortable and just the comps that come your way. Chasing comps are about as bad as chasing losses. Overbetting just to get noticed is a sure-fired way to over-pay for a "free" room.
     
  13. dankyone

    dankyone VIP Whale

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    The better MGM props will send you nothing. The CET rate calendar will probably give you comp rooms at their lower end properties regardless of where in their universe you put this play in. They don't have any S17 blackjack games under $100 min, though--you might try the DD H17 game at the Paris which is usually dealt at $25 min. You may well get a teaser offer from Wynn, Venetian, or Cosmo with this play which might be the best way to go. For a longer term "relationship" TI or Tropicana might work best.
     
  14. Viva Las Vegas

    Viva Las Vegas Ramblin' Gamblin' Man

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    Good advice. I typically don't even get rated at table unless I'm playing bigger than normal. If I hit a good streak, I have solid play and higher ADT. Most pit critters will back rate.

    Play your craps as you wish, but they won't comp you unless you bump your bets during a hot streak. If you want to be recognized, cycle a $100 bill through a slot or VP machine. Downtown or independents such as LVH or downtown will likely show you some love for your play.

    I played their first week open, had a good streak and bumped my bets. Tipped decent as well and they rated me decent. Have returned twice on offers for free rooms (2 nights weekdays), played $25-$50 most sessions and continue to get offers for 2 weekdays (the latest had $175 freeplay).

    CET + 27 tier slot points = offers.
    CET + 27 table points = no offers (maybe discounts or possibly a Quad teaser comp).
     
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