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Table Games Pai Gow. Is this normal?

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by Aw234, Sep 21, 2012.

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  1. Aw234

    Aw234 Low-Roller

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    I'm sitting at the Pai Gow table Tesday morning at Binnion's downtown. I think their were 4 players. Dealers fun and were having a good time. Player at #1 seat seems like nice guy when he sets his hand wrong. Puts low hand high and high hand low. Dealer calls the suit over (Brian) just calls it a loser. No complentary one mistake. Is this common? I'm asking cause were we play at an Indian casino the suits always give the player a break.

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  2. numeno

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    Did they actually put the 5 card hand in the 2 card spot? Or did they play something like a pair in the 2 card hand and nothing in the 5 card hand?


    I also seen the complimentory one mistake as well. If it was the first situation, I don't understand why it was a loser. If it was the 2nd case and it was a very obvious misplay then I can understand why they called it a loser. Most of the comp mistakes I see are very close plays, not obvious wrong plays.
     
  3. mdk63

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    Yup

    It's a loser; at least that's been my experience. I've learned to double check w/ dealer when crossing that thin line between buzzed and intoxicated.:drunk:

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  4. SH0CK

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    I have seen the chances that they will "allow" you to reset a misplayed hand being directionally proportional to how often/much you have been tipping.

    Some times they do, some times, they won't.
     
  5. Lonster

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    I has an Asian man who spoke no english betting a $1000.00 on my hand..(I was betting $15.00). I asked the dealer what wouild happen if I soiled my hand. I was told we would both lose. He stopped betting on mu hand!
     
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    love Pai Gow, wonder who was banking? i have seen lots of do overs in this situation, my gut says something else was going on.
     
  7. y2mulder

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    He might have had his one freebie already. Or Binions is tightening the screws on the game. Or the critter was just having a bad day. Gonna lean with the first one though.

    Most casinos will grant you leniency, but if you keep doing it...their hands are completely tied.
     
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    Here's a tip...

    Don't set a foul hand while banking.

    Wanna know how I know?
     
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    I've played in many places on the strip. They will almost always give you a mulligan. Sometimes even 2 or even 3.
    They don't have too, but it's usually good customer service and in the scheme of things costs them very little.
     
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    The dealers will also help you set your hand.

    You are allowed to turn over all seven cards and ask the dealer the "house way" and they'll advise you how to set your cards.

    You are free to set them any way you want, "house" way or any other, including putting a high hand in front - which loses!

    In short, there's no reason to set a dead hand - for which the house has no obligation to offer a "mulligan."
     
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    Aw234 Low-Roller

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    Yes #1 did set high hand low and vice versa. Don't know any table history with #1.
     
  12. Boone

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    Only set mine wrong one time over all these years but it happens a lot. I got to set it correctly and was paid a winner. From my experience I have never seen the casino not let a person reset but it has always been the pit bosses call - I have never seen it twice in one session though.
     
  13. shifter

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    i set mine wrong one time by mistake and they fixed it and i got a push out of it. i didn't realize i had a pair and set it as if i had a pai gow and ended up splitting up the pair.
     
  14. GeorgeJ.

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    The locals casinos are usually good about letting you fix a mistake...

    Paris, on the other hand had one pit boss that was a real a-hole...I was playing at around 6am one morning and made an error on my hand...the pit boss tore into me, saying this was the third error I wanted fixed (not true..this was the first and only)...and after that he stood behind that table (I was the only player) and scrutinized each hand until I finally got fed up with this guy and left...I have never played PaiGow at Paris since...
     
  15. Aw234

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    Thanks everybody for the great feedback. I guess from now on on my first bet i'll put op a buck for the dealer to play, maybe that will get me some slack. Just in case.
     
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    Remember, they usually will only do this when you foul your hand (wrong number of cards in each or low hand is higher.) If it's just some sort of strategy decision that you got wrong, like you didn't play a straight when you had one, they basically aren't going to let you reset that hand.
     
  17. DuckyD77090

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    I've seen the casino be helpful either with people who are completely new and don't really know what they're doing (heck, I've seen the floor sit and play the player's cards with the newbie if they're sitting at 1st or 3rd base). I've also seen them be helpful when you've established a reputation for being a competent player and you're 6 hours into a session and just screw up because the cards start looking all the same. My wife is famous needing this graciousness after she's ground out one too many hands.

    I remember playing at ElCo last year and splitting a pair of Aces deliberately. The dealer called the floor and they both tried explaining to me what I should have done and I was trying to explain that I knew what I did and it was deliberate. They tried to re-set my hand and make it push. I didn't know what to do. I toked the (small) bet and the dealer was so confused.

    I lost, I was prepared to take it like a man. And they wouldn't let me!
     
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