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Table Games Pai Gow - Beginner

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by abandapart, Oct 15, 2016.

  1. abandapart

    abandapart Tourist

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    Heading to LV for the first time at the beginning of December. My usual games are Roulette & BJ, I can pretty much do them in my sleep. I have been reading VMB alot since making my reservation and am really getting into the idea of playing Pai Gow. Is there any good places to go for a newb? Low limits, nice/helpful dealers, good vibe?
     
  2. bedaniels

    bedaniels Low-Roller

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    I play a lot at MB on the floor or in the lotus room if it's open. The mins are usually $25 all dealers are nice and helpful except for Sue. Don't play at her table she'll complain about something. MGM has a nice pit by the high limit slots usually mins run from $10-25 depending on the time and day. Helpful dealers as well. Low variance with Pai Gow due ties, I enjoy it. I've seen $10 min at Luxor but never played as the tables were full. Dealers at NyNy also had $10 min but not generally helpful, more like robots.
     
  3. RynoBU

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    I like Aria for Pai Gow Poker. I typically play in the morning and early afternoon (less smoke and lower limits: I've seen $15 limits before noon). The limits will be much higher in the evening. The dealers were initially quiet but warmed up quickly. I know some people complain that Aria dealers are "robotic;" I didn't find this at all. Just being polite and friendly goes a long way. Lynn is my favorite dealer and works the afternoon shifts.
    Funny story: when I first started playing PGP, I was offered $1000 by another player to switch seats with him. He was promptly asked to leave before I could even respond. I guess I was messing up the mojo at the table. PGP is a lot of fun and a very social game. Lots of pushes usually provide for longer playing time. Good luck!
     
  4. Aces and Eights

    Aces and Eights VIP Whale

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    I would have thought he wanted your seat because either you were getting good hands, or he likes playing in a particular seat. In PGP every hand gets dealt so it wouldn't be how you played your cards. I would have taken a grand to give up a seat. I wonder why they asked him to leave.
     
  5. Turtleman

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    Gold Coast and Orleans have $10 Pai Gow, but why on earth MSS raised theirs from $10 to $15 is beyond me. Interestingly, Suncoast is still two $5 tables! I think it's always a good idea to start small and go up (if you feel like it) after gaining a little firsthand experience and becoming comfortable.
     
  6. Chuck2009x

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    I played Pai Gow for the first time a couple of trips ago and really liked it, the players and dealers seemed very relaxed, it's a pretty relaxed game and the volatility swings are fairly low.

    One tip I'd give - if you like to drink while you're playing, as a first-timer, you really really really want to scout out for a good-natured dealer who can actually give you advice and isn't going to get exasperated when you quickly and repeatedly violate a couple of rules like I did:

    • Mis-playing your hand, which gets you a warning from the box first and then you forfeit the hand on subsequent violations.
    • Pulling the cards back off the edge of the table
     
  7. joehypnosis

    joehypnosis Low-Roller

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    Played $5 daytime at Red Rock a couple years ago for the afternoon. V relaxed game, about 50 percent of hands are pushes, so slow pace and low volatility. Great break from blackjack!

    Very social game. Other players will help you eagerly to set your hands if you want help...or if you don't. Dealer will also help you if asked. Have fun!
     
  8. makikiboy

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    Just FYI, there is a difference between Pai Gow and Pai Gow Poker. I think the OP probably is referring to Pai Gow Poker with his question. The regular Pai Gow game uses those domino tiles.

    I think the Bellagio offers the Pai Gow game. Pai Gow is an Asian (Chinese) game so casinos that cater to the crowd from Asia may have the game, in addition to Sic Bo. I would assume that the new Asian themed casino should also have Pai Gow but we will find out in a couple of months after they open.

    Yeah, many casinos that offer Pai Gow Poker start with $15 minimums. Not sure why and not sure why not $10 but the ones that did offer $10 tables have raised it up to $15.
     
  9. Aces and Eights

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    To clarify makikiboy, I think Bellagio offers both Pai Gow and Pai Gow Poker, not just Pai Gow. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    Many years ago (maybe over 10 years) Caesars Palace only took a $1 commission for a $25 bet while all other increments of $5 were a quarter commission ($25 minimum bet). This didn't last long.
     
  11. abandapart

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    Thanks for the clarification. Yeah, I am refering to PG Poker, not the tiles. The tiles would just confuse me...
     
  12. abandapart

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    I think, for a beginner, I would like to find either $10 or max of $15. So for those limits I would probably need to find somewhere in the morning, before the limits go up. Luxor or MGM, maybe Bellagio or Caesars? Im looking for strip casinos.
     
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    You can definitely find $10-$15 tables at Cromwell during the week (even at night). It's been our go-to Pai Gow place for several trips now. NYNY also has $10 table(s) but the dealers aren't super helpful. At Cromwell, the dealers will help you out as much as you need. Highly recommended.
     
  14. makikiboy

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    I am pretty sure you are correct with the Bellagio having both Pai Gow and Pai Gow Poker. I just used Bellagio as a place that have Pai Gow games. Some people don't know about Pai Gow so I wanted to explain that even some vegas casinos have the game.
     
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    if you find yourself downtown, the golden nugget had a commission free pai gow poker game in february and july. i think it was 10 or 15 minimum. i realize the 5% isn't a huge amount but it certainly adds up. plus you don't have to mess with singles and quarters.
     
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    I think the 5% adds directly to the house edge which is a considerable amount. But without a commission, the only house edge is that ties go to the dealer. I don't know if GN allowed the player to be the dealer once a round during the commission-free times, but that would even lessen the house edge.
     
  17. easy_money

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    I've never been to GN, but if there's no commission for PGP then players are not allowed to deal. Also if the dealer has a Q high hand, it's considered a tie for everyone. That's the only downfall for no commission PGP, which IMHO is well worth it even if you play a short amount of time. Rarely do you see the dealer with a Q high pai gow hand.
     
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    Also, to add, the bonus pay tables are usually smaller too. I believe from royal flush and higher. Straight flushes and below remain the same.
     
  19. boxofbirds

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    I've played $10 PGP at Tropicana, T.I., and Downtown Grand for the first time last year. I remember the Tropicana dealers being the nicest and most helpful to me when I was confused or made a mistake.
     
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    Second the vote for the Cromwell. Great place to gamble, and you can get Maker's Mark instead of just Crown. Harrah's also has 4-5 $10-$15 tables all the time, even on weekend nights. Their dealers vary (just like everywhere else) but for the most part, they are helpful and the tables are usually good natured.