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Only 12% Come To LV Primarily To Gamble

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by smartone, Apr 14, 2015.

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  1. smartone

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    ugh, on the back of Packer's tribal casino thread?

    I'ma just jump off da roof now...
     
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    That would explain why all these little shops keep opening up.
     
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    Maybe most don't "primarily" gamble...but the gamblers are keeping the average gaming spend up. It still outweighs the food/shopping budget combined according to them.

     
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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Sorry, but this is a stupid worthless statistic "Only 12% Come To LV Primarily To Gamble"

    Does not say how much they will or will not gamble.

    And, of course, even gamblers come to eat, drink, take in entertainment.
     
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    I always take surveys with a grain of salt. They interviewed 300 people per month (but they don't say for how many months) and claim that this provides a "glimpse" of "some" of the 41.1 million people who visited Vegas in 2014. Hardly sounds like a valid statistical sample.
     
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    thecarve Misanthrope

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    Indeed. Yet later In the article she states, "gambling has become incidental".
     
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    I don't come to Vegas to primarily gamble. If I just want to gamble, I have closer and and cheaper places to go. I go to Vegas for vacation, to sleep late, eat bad, and find fun things to do. Of course I have my gambling budget, but I find as my trips go on, I tire of gambling and find other stuff to do.
     
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    In my family of 4 brothers, 3 go to gamble, myself included.
     
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    Polls easily can be flawed, but I also don't put much scientific credence into the collected conclusions -- on gambling -- of a bunch of people for whom gambling is such an important part of life. In the grand scheme, it doesn't really matter how other people vegas, now does it, as long as each of us can still vegas how we choose?

    Personally, I'm not surprised. In our larger Vegas traveling group over the past 20 years, we have a few "gamblers," one or two people who'll slip a $20 in a machine and be done and then the majority don't play at all. I don't see that as being emblematic of everyone, but it is a phenomenon with which we are familiar so I accept it without hesitation.

    Vegas always will be about gambling. Whether it has the primacy it did in 1970 or if it faces competition from the many other diversions of today, you know gambling will always be the heart and pulse of Vegas because if you pull it out, Vegas dies. It doesn't matter who is coming to Vegas to gamble, or not, how it compares to the so-called glory days, just as long as there is gambling. Vegas would continue to exist if all the name chefs disappeared, all the house DJs returned to Miami and Chicago and So Cal, and yes, even if the golf courses all withered. It would be a less recognizable Vegas, not as vibrant or diverse, with less opulence and not as many hotel rooms, but with gambling in place, it stays in place. The only thing more essential to Vegas' continued existence is water.
     
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    When Indian casinos started popping up all over many predicted the demise of Vegas. Others predicted the opposite, that many who had never/rarely gambled would get a taste of it at an Indian casino and then want to go to Vegas for the real thing. I think the truth ended up somewhere in the middle. I'm not a slots player but if I was I certainly wouldn't play them at an Indian casino. The vast competition in Vegas helps keep payouts higher. With little to no competition the Indian casinos have no such incentive. I'm a die hard craps player and there's a fairly nice Indian casino about 15 minutes from me but I almost never go there. Craps is part of an overall entertainment experience that I can only get in Vegas.
     
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    Each month.... so 12 times...
     
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    Kinda like the poll about cities not living up to expectations. There is a reason there are so many fancy casinos in Las Vegas and it's not because people don't gamble. The correct comment, methinks, is: "You can go to Las Vegas without gambling and have a great time."
     
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    Although not as much as in the past, I think there is still a stigma attached to gambling and that even to a stranger or anonymous survey people just aren't willing to admit they are going to gamble.
     
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    I know people who think gambling is "stupid" because you are just "throwing your money away".
     
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    A very good point! Some people can be pretty judgmental about gambling. But I'd be more inclined to admit how much I gamble to a stranger taking a survey than to some of my acquaintances at work! Either way, 3600 out of 4.1 million people is a miniscule survey sample. Maybe I'll conduct my own scientific survey next time I'm in a casino by looking around to see if it appears that about 12% of the occupants are gambling.
     
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    In fairness to the research it said primarily to gamble.... The 20 somethings at Cosmo that go to Marquee after Marquee, but would they be there without Marquee? Probably not!

    Research studies are not perfect but I am sure they did the due diligence to try and make it accurate or as accurate as possible since the casinos will use the information to drive revenue...
     
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    I think this is really important. Though I think relatively few people nowadays find something morally wrong with gambling per se, they do find something wrong with being a gambler (moral or otherwise). They'll say they gamble because "when in Rome", but they're not really gamblers. I'm sure this accurately describes many Vegas visitors, but there is also (I would guess) a large contingent of people who are self-deluded, and so their self-reported reasons for going can't really be relied on.
     
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    These kinds of surveys are good for demographic data and some of the other hard data. But self-reported information on personal things is usually bad. Pollsters and marketers have ways to get more accurate info out of people about preferences and things like that but they aren't doing any of that in these surveys. I think I was stopped for one of these at McCarran some years ago. I remember they were pretty general questions but I don't remember what they were and it didn't take long.

    How accurate do you really think people are going to be answering questions about their gambling budgets? Most people that go over their head probably don't want to admit it to some pollster asking questions off an iPad at the airport, but its a normal scene in any casino.

    Same with whether you go primarily to gamble. In fact that is just a dumb question. I wouldn't go to Vegas without the gambling, as I bet a lot of people wouldn't. But I wouldn't say I go primarily to gamble either. I go primarily to vacation/relax/have fun/whatever.

    The club scene and non-gaming portion of revenue is obviously growing. But people making it sound like gambling is "incidental" are just talking nonsense. It is still the single most important source of revenue, by their own survey its done by over 70% of visitors (compared to 8% for clubs and a whopping 2% for dayclubs), gets the biggest chunk of people's budgets, etc. Anyone who opens a resort in Vegas and treats gambling as "incidental" will go the way of Revel in AC and where Cosmo was once almost headed.
     
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