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Ok smarty pants, Help me figure my coin in.

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by golfnut, Sep 8, 2012.

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  1. golfnut

    golfnut Low-Roller

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    I tried to search on this answer but didn't see anything. Anyways is there a way to figure your coin in by the number of mlife tier points I earned last trip?

    Here's the breakdown if you can:

    Now I can't get exact numbers because mlife sight is down right now.

    Went from no points to about 44000-46,000 I believe it was. Am now pearl and I remember it showed that I had 30,000 tier points to go until gold so I hope that makes since to someone. let me know if the numbers make since with needing 30,000 more until gold.

    I played mainly slots and roulette did play some craps, and about a half hour of blackjack. At around $25-$50 a hand. The roulette I was playing around $25-$75 a spin played for a few hour total. But mainly slots.

    Figuring coin in may be impossible? If it is let me know. Or if you think your up for the challenge give me your best guess. The funny thing is you could tell me anything and I wouldn't know if it's true or not. :ssst:

    Thanks for all the help, this board rocks!
     
  2. Motorhead

    Motorhead Low-Roller

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  3. Auggie

    Auggie Dovahkiin

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    If you had played only slots and earned about 45,000 tier credits then that would represent about $9,000 in coin in.

    But because you played some table games as well the exact number can't be worked out... so the best answer is going to be: "Your coin in was less than $9,000"
     
  4. Dean Martin

    Dean Martin VIP Whale

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    I know for VP, our host was very open about the coin-in/point at Wynn so if you have a host, I'd just ask what it takes to earn one point and then the math is easy. If you don't have a host, it sounds like you play enough that you should so I'd get hooked up if I were you.

    As an example for VP - it takes $9 coin in to get 1 point so after a trip if you had 10,000 points, you would have run $90K thru.

    I'm sure regular slots require much less coin in to equal 1 point because I'd guess in VP, you recycle a lot more of your original deposit into the machine.
     
  5. golfnut

    golfnut Low-Roller

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    I never thought I was quite at that level yet, but would love it if I am. Would you call and ask to speak with a host or just email one? I would like to make Monte Carlo my home base casino, as I really like it there for some reason.

    One other quick question. Do you think my play warrants a limo transfer from the airport. And if not at what level is that ok to ask for? Thats all I can think I would want from a host at this time.
     
  6. zamboni

    zamboni VIP Whale

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    Thats a question for a host. They should be comping rooms and buffets at that level I would think as well.
     
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    I honestly don't think you are...

    Or maybe I should say: technically anybody can contact a host and ask for stuff. What they can/will do for you depends on your level of play and your potential as a player... but if its a slow week they might book your room for your if they have nothing better to do instead of just transferring you to VIP services.

    As said, your coin in was less than $9,000...

    To put things in context: you are only half way to the "GOLD" level, which is the middle tier of the MLife program. "GOLD" is actually where things do start to pick up in the program, but by comparison: it takes more play at a Total Rewards casino to make Platinum than it does to make Gold at an MLife casino (about 33% more play).

    Going back to the original question about points and all that: you don't say how many days your trip was or how much you played (time-wise) but based on how many points you earned through table and slots play I would speculate that your actual played bankroll for this last trip was in the area of $1,100-1,400 (more if you had a really horrible run of luck in there) and thats just not really a limo transfer worthy level of play by Las Vegas standards.
    [NOTE: by "actual played bankroll" I mean what was truely at risk and thats why things like time come in to effect. Like if I showed up with $1,000,000 in my pocket but limited all my play to penny slots at 30 cents per spin I can't really say my bankroll is a million bucks because there is no way, at that level of play, that I could risk the million dollars]
     
  8. mike_m235

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    I've got a pretty good idea of what it takes to get your host to take interest at Monte Carlo. It's my home base too. PM me if you want, and we can talk about your bankroll and I'll let you know what I think and where you stand compared to what I'm getting from them.

    One trip worth of tier credits earned is hard to figure from. I was on a nice Hotel 32 comp this last trip and only earned 40,000 credits during the trip (which is a bit low for me.) So you might be good. How much you are willing to lose in a single trip over how many nights will matter.

    As for the host question in general...I think one key is if you plan to stay at the same place repeatedly, it lends itself toward cultivating a host. He may not do much for you the first trip (might just read you the computer offers) but as you establish a relationship, he helps more.
     
  9. shiny

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    Auggie made a very clear statement. In addition to the amount that a player is willing to risk/gamble at the casino, the host (or VIP service rep) evaluates the player's theoretical loss, actual loss, hours of play per day, and the so-called ADT, etc.
     
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    mike_m235 Tourist

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    This is why I said that if you're staying at the same place over and over, a host can help. Because if you demonstrate that you're willing to lose a certain amount, even if you don't lose that every time, I feel like it factors into the equation.
     
  11. shiny

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    Thank you for pointing out the key words of "to lose a certain amount"! Based upon your most recent trip report, you spent good amount of hours at the tables and lost almost all your bankroll (about $4,100) during a very short trip (3 days and 2 nights), correct? That's why your host is interested in keeping you under his belt. He will certainly invite you back to Monte Carlo again and hope you will lose more money the next time.

    Not everyone in this board is willing to do/risk as what you recently did. In other words, host only spends time in working with certain player(s) under the monetary threshold. IMHO
     
  12. mike_m235

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    Yes, I think that's fair. I think they probably factor in multiple things in determining what they can do. Amount you're willing to lose, average bet, time played, length of stay. And we can be pretty sure, based on my history, that if you lose 4 or 5K per stay for a couple stays you'll get taken care of :eek:
     
  13. golfnut

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    Thanks for all the inputs.

    Auggie I believed you asked about my length of stay and bank roll. Well we stay for 3 nights always. My bankroll for gambling is 4,000-5,000 for gambling per trip. Been going about 1-2 a year for a while now.

    Now monte Carlo did send me an offer of 5 comped nights $100 in free play I booked for oct. so I'm at least getting that.

    I also earned $98 in express comps in feb. over 3 nights, don't no if that helps make things easier or not but thought I would throw that out there.
     
  14. nostresshere

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    Part of what makes this board great is folks that share information here, vs in private messages. Just saying.
     
  15. golfnut

    golfnut Low-Roller

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    I did share in post above. So everyone could give me there opinions and expert advice.
     
  16. mike_m235

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    I'm willing to share everything about my play here. Just wasn't sure the OP wanted to do that. If you read my trip report, all my numbers are in it, so I've got nothing to hide.

    Edit: One thing I won't do is post a host's phone number in a public message, but I would do it in private. Of course you could pretty easily go to the hotel website and get the office number, if you wanted.
     
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