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NHL in Vegas

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by bobby jones, Nov 12, 2014.

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  1. bobby jones

    bobby jones Low-Roller

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    For the hockey pucks out there...

    I know some of our sunbelt members might not give rat's @$$ about the NHL but, for those of us from cooler climes, the NHL might be a bit closer to reality. Apparently the Maloof family has been approved as owners of a new LV franchise. I believe this is the family that owned the Palms (prehaps a minority share still) then lost it trying to carry to much debt. Where have we heard a similar discussion lately???

    Some people don't think it will work but, I think the city could support a team as long as it is the only game in town. Between residents, travelers from Canada and US hockey hotbeds, the new strip location should be ok. I think everyone has seen enough Cirque shows and this will be another thing to do.

    I am not sure what percentage of the action hockey gets but, I suspect it is a very small percentage. My one NHL experience in LV was a couple years ago in CP at the sports book during a Washington NYR playoff game. Of the six large screens at the sports book, three of them were the game, one horse race and one baseball (early May). The hockey volume was on high and the place was rockin! I have no idea who all the people were but, for an early round playoff hockey game in Las Vegas, I was shocked!

    Now if the NBA ever came to town, all "bets" off for the NHL!

    thoughts? - especially locals?
     
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  2. Piggylane

    Piggylane Well-Known Member

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    Not a local but a Boston Bruins fan. I wholeheartedly support an NHL team for Las Vegas and would make an effort to see games there.

    As far as the NBA? Were you there for the All Star game a few years ago? I was. The city was full of LA gangs and crime. I carry concealed, legally. Glad I did.

    I think the NHL crowd would be better for business than the NBA thugs.
     
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    I twould be cool but i dont want them to get a team as my hometown is wanting one bad and we are a much better hockey market than Vegas and we will have a brand new 18500 seat arena opening up next september

    Florida/phoenix are full of canadians, plenty of retiry from the US North east, millions of tourist in florida and they cant draw at all, its not gonna work any better in Vegas

    I love hockey and theres no chance in hell im spending a night at the rink while im on vacation
     
  4. chitownjohn

    chitownjohn High-Roller

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    Phoenix metro area has twice the population as Vegas, but they rank last with an average of 13K / game. Vegas gets 40M visitors annually which will help but I doubt Vegas has the local fan base to support a team over the long haul. I hope it works out but I'm skeptical.
     
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    I think the the visitors-to-Vegas thing is overrated in these contexts, as if Vegas is the only popular travel spot in the states; Arizona gets about 40 million visitors a year, too, greater Phoenix some 20 million. Vegas certainly gets more than most, particularly when you look how finite the geography is, but you have to look carefully at that audience.

    I don't see this panning out in Vegas. Partially for the Sunbelt factor, mostly because of the nature of the residential population, and no salvation with the turistas.

    Wow, I'd totally forgotten about Thug Night in Vegas. That was something else.
     
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    Isn't the arena in Glendale kind of out of the way fpr a good chunk of the Phoenix population and business districts? I think the Coyotes did better attendance at the old barn but, that could also have been because they were new in town.

    In terms of Florida, lots of Canucks and Americans from the north east but, they are all almost over 60 and living on fixed pensions. Their entertainment decision isn't between hockey tonight, Celine, $1,000 on the craps table or bottle service at club XYZ. Its more : which restaurant has the 4PM $5 dinner special and which course has the $20 twilight golf special.

    It will be interesting to see how it plays out. LV is certainly a different kind of town with different rules. For whatever reason, I would like to see it happen and let the chips fall...
     
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    pressitagain Low-Roller

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    This would actually be a financial bonanza for Vegas. To get any professional sports team to locate there (not just hockey).

    Trickle down economics of course. Restaurants, "The Ballet", Casinos, Gamblers anonymous...etc.

    The team itself, might not make money but the city would.

    These are the main reasons that Vegas, will likely never see any professional sports team, locate there.

    No league is willing to risk any more scandal. They already have too many plugs to cover with drugs, violence, social media, excessive lifestyles...

    It's just a pipe dream, that makes for great conversation. Regardless, of the sport.
     
  8. ant1433

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    I was reading that bets on NHL won't happen as they don't want a crowd full of betters with tickets in their hands losing it if someone takes a dumb penalty or lose a shootout and don't cover. Plus the temptation for the players or family members to make a bet with inside information.
     
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    I don't see Las Vegas getting an NHL team when Boyd just pulled Orleans arena out from under the Wranglers. Now they have arena soccer. Arena soccer versus real hockey? You need season ticket patrons to sustain a team, not just one-game sales from tourists. Except for relocating an ill-conceived Atlanta team, NHL hasn't taken a misstep in that way since it tried us back in the mid-seventies.
     
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    I think if the NHL were to expand, doing in cities without basketball makes the most sense. Nashville seems to work ok, Tampa is better than Miami (FLA). Personally I think Seattle may work better, but without the arena if they were going to put a team west, I like Vegas better than Kansas City (which already had a team leave),
     
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    I really hope they get an NHL team. The arena is going up so let's see what happens.
     
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    Would love another excuse to see a Leafs game. Still cheaper to fly to Vegas, stay in a hotel and go to the game than it is to see them live in TO.
     
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