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New L.A. to Vegas Greyhound Express - Game Changer?

Discussion in 'Getting There & Getting Around' started by CosmoM, Nov 24, 2012.

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  1. CosmoM

    CosmoM Low-Roller

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    It seems like the L.A. to Vegas route is getting some attention - There is talk of a 5.5 hour Party Train between L.A. and Vegas, and in early November Greyhound started express service between Los Angeles and Vegas, which is different from the LuxBus service.

    Game Change #1
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    5 hour service to Vegas and Back. Usually Greyhound takes 7 hours with their regular service. The bus stops at Barstow Station just as the LuxBus does. So Greyhound is competing directly with LuxBus.

    Game Change #2
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    New Luxury Buses - these are the same as the ones used by LuxBus, with outlets and seatbelts for each row of seats. So not the older buses.

    Game Change #3
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    Multiple trips per day. This is the biggest game change in my opinion and differentiates it from LuxBus.

    The schedule departing L.A. is:
    12:30AM, 8:30AM, 12:15PM, 3:00PM, 6:00PM, and 10:45PM

    The schedule departing Vegas is:
    12:00AM, 3:30AM, 8:15AM, 12:00PM, and 5:00PM

    With the new schedule, you can take an early bus to Vegas, cab to the Aria for poker, then take either the 12:00AM or 3:30AM bus back to L.A., which makes day-trips to Vegas possible by bus.

    Game Change #4
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    For now the price ranges between $38 and $57 round trip versus $103 round trip for LuxBus. The $38 price is close to beating the cost of driving your own car to Vegas depending on the price of gas and is the price I was quoted for a Fri-Sun trip.


    Drawbacks
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    The bus terminals are not pristine locations like the LuxBus Disneyland location. The Vegas terminal is the downtown bus terminal (at least pop-up pizza is nearby).

    Parking is not something I would want to do in the L.A. location.


    Cheers All,


    Cosmo
     
  2. SikDmax

    SikDmax Low-Roller

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    The XTrain is going to be the biggest game changer in CA-LV travel that has ever happened. They will do very well IMO.
     
  3. C0usineddie

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    This train thing has been bantered about for years. It would be fun to be able to drink your way to vegas so you can start as soon as you leave instead of when you arrive.

    The only way the train will ever work is if amtrak takes it over. They are already heavily subsidized by the govt for the simple fact that its not a profit making business.

    A party bus would be fun as well for the same reasons as above, the party. A regular bus would suck because no drinking and the clientele is a bit rough around the edges sometimes.
     
  4. MikeOPensacola

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    Is the train thing a go, or has the Cali budget deficit put it in limbo?
     
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    Wouldn't the ride back be pretty rough? Drunk, tired, carsick, and trying to avoid watching the person next to you being drunk, tired, and carsick.
     
  7. travelfiend

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    How would that be different than all the air flights leaving Las Vegas?? :wink2:
     
  8. SikDmax

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    The train thing is 100% a go, its privately owned, using Union Pacifics track (Agreement signed this week) and staffed by AMTRAK employees. Not high speed, but alcohol on board, 5 hour trip, $99 each way with food and beverage included.
     
  9. xmarksx

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    100% a go, really? Where are they getting the money to start this venture? From their site:

    Las Vegas Railway Express, Inc. (OTCQB: XTRN) Files Quarterly Financial Disclosure Statement






    LAS VEGAS, NV--(Marketwire - Nov 15, 2012) - Las Vegas Railway Express, Inc. (OTCQB: XTRN) today filed its quarterly financial disclosure statement on form 10Q with the SEC. The Company continues on its plan of development of a luxury passenger train, the "X Train," which plans to take passengers from Los Angeles to Las Vegas and back in Vegas style comfort. The Company plans to begin operations in late 2013.

    The Company improved its financial balance sheet during the third quarter with the elimination of $2.2 million of liabilities. These included conversion of short term debt to equity of $775,000, the elimination of a stock subscription payable to equity of $640,000, and disposal of liabilities from discontinued operations of $749,000. The Company also successfully subscribed a private placement offering of $2,282,000. The resulting balance sheet reflects a positive stockholders equity of $1,736,995 as of September 30, 2012 against a stockholders negative equity of ($1,623,055) as of March 31, 2012. This is a positive increase in stockholders equity of $3,360,050
     
  10. DonD

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    In the 90s, we took the train from Fullerton to the Plaza on a few occasions. It was fun but driving was much better to us. With us, we live about 8 miles from the Fullerton station and we always stayed at the Plaza at that time. Very convenient.

    Las Vegas was not the destination of the train, it was just a stop on the way to somewhere east of Vegas and they stopped that route. Since then, I've seen many plans to add a train to Vegas, everyone of them going broke and the investors losing their money.

    Here's an article from Saturdays LA Times. Note the ? at the end of the headline:

    http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-x-train-vegas-california-20121123,0,1295767.story
     
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    If subsidized Amtrak could not make it??? Something about this whole thing does not smell right. I guess I am just not bright enough to figure out what it is but assume money has someting to do with it.
     
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