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My concern with SLS

Discussion in 'LV Strip Hotels & Casinos' started by VivaMattyVegas, Jul 13, 2014.

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  1. VivaMattyVegas

    VivaMattyVegas Tourist

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    Drive north on the strip from Encore, where I'd say most tourists feel the strip ends, can you see SLS?

    No, and here's why. The eyesore known as Fountainbleu covers the ENTIRE building, you would have no idea SLS exists.

    I hope the marketing department will be able to solve this quick because they will not have the business they're expecting if a high amount of people doesn't know that it's there.

    That's my 2 cents.
     
  2. smartone

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    I'm not sure a hotel/casino with a couple thousand rooms on the corner of Las Vegas Blvd. & Sahara has the same issues as a new sandwich shop... though I do agree, The Fountainbleu is a huge eyesore and adds nothing of value to any part of the equation.
     
  3. Negg

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    People are saying SLS CC and the Riv just need to hang on till Vegas world opens in late 2016. We shall see come nov 2016. There's actually rumors know about a poss hotel/casino at the old W&W site. MGM is building a park/outdoor concert venue on the corner of shara and the strip. Once again..late 2015. So SLS will have the north strip all to its self for about a year
     
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    i was just over there saturday nite i was lvh, first off the nieghboorhood around the sls isnt the best to say the least, also there already discounting the rooms,third to much competion, i was at drias last thursday,and i love they guys there they treat people right unlike most of the other clubs but it was so dead there they didnt even open up the pool deck they blamed it on the weather(sure) so insure was good crowd but if pool deck open would have looked empty there still getting killed by the big named dj clubs,and sls being furthjur down wount help them, and xs or surrender just strated there own pool nite swim party.

    its so far down they will have to do alot to get people there, and i bet at nite the wait on cabs could be an hour or more.

    its going to be oversaturation.

    how many people know what feed segal is if they do they all ready go there in la.

    also there openning at the wurst time pool season over and its convention time,

    sam has alot to do to get people there and treat locals realy well much better than the scam at double barrel salon and db doorman pepe le pue at hyde treats people
     
  5. samanthaelizabeth

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    But isn't that new Veags World going to be up there somewhere? That will drive a lot of people to that part of the strip. The southern part is kinda cheesy anyway,,,,
     
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    there targeting asians , it will impact wynn the most
     
  7. chitownjohn

    chitownjohn High-Roller

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    When SLS first announced I recall a statistic that 50K+ cars pass through that intersection every day, mostly locals of course. I think the business model is locals during the week and the Cali crowd on the weekends. I don't think they expect the strip folks to accidentally stumble on this, you either know it's there or you don't.
     
  8. Chuck2009x

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    I took a cab downtown the other night and there wasn't any question where SLS was, it's clearly marked.

    The location is poor for now.

    If they turn it into a party spot and draw off some the clubbing crowd, it's fine with me although I have no problem with the clubbing crowd.

    Anything that adds another couple thousand rooms to the inventory is good.

    When you're hunting pussy like the club crowd, you don't give a shit what's across the street.
     
  9. Negg

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    Whats cheesy about south strip ??
     
  10. smartone

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    That is the 2nd or 3rd busiest intersection in the state.
     
  11. ardee

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    They aren't going to have any problems. Who the hell trips to Vegas and decides where to go based on what they can see? If the place gets good word of mouth and/or offers some deals, people will go there. It's not like they were expecting foot traffic from Mandalay Bay, after all.

    BTW, you couldn't see SLS from street level at Encore even if the Fontainebleau wasn't there. Too much other stuff in the way.
     
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    people are not walking to sls , neighboor is rough, wrong crowd, to far, i can keep on going.they will target la and the krapdashins , but its geting over saturation , the thing the cromwell has is the cet database, and its small and basicaly a niteclub with some hotel rooms and a resturant that got really good reviews.and the best location on the strip.

    ill go check it out , but they better make it real easy to get in , no attitude or there dommed as there are 10 other clubs that mine and peoples business without shleping that fare down unless im on my way to ogs and then im in trouble and i dont think there targeting the startosphere crowd
     
  13. waverunner

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    And that's my point about the "Strip" ending at Wynn and nothing further north. The Strip no longer has the Desert Inn, Frontier, Stardust, Sands etc for people walking the blvd like they used to. It's not desirable for many people, who only spend a couple/few days and they want to be able to walk the Strip from Hotel to Hotel like they can do now from Wynn down to Mandalay Bay.

    The mindset of people who go now are what can i see and do in the least amount of time.

    Some people will only stay on the south strip, some people will only stay at the mid strip, but most people will go to both because there's entertainment value on the Strip from Wynn south, but very few people stay on the north strip and even less for entertainment options. It has changed. Just look at L.V. Blvd north past Encore, it's practically deserted. The South and Mid are connected, mostly from walking or taking the Trams. People will walk from Wynn or Venetian to MGM or Luxor because it's close enough to walk to get to an eatery to have dinner and maybe see a show. You just can't walk out the door at TI and walk to the Riviera to eat. The distance may be the same but tourists only see what's ahead of them, and what they see is a vast wasteland. They will turn back and go south.

    The people you see driving are going Downtown. The people staying off Strip, like Palms, Gold Coast, Rio, Orleans, can also do the Strip with the shuttles. There's no reason for the tourists to walk past Wynn/Encore.

    Those tourists will gladly walk to their destinations as long as there is something worthwhile to do in between. And that's why i call the "Strip" from Wynn to Mandalay Bay. No disrespect, but that's the way it is now.

    It's all about the tourists:

    Big names in Shows, Big names in eateries, Celebs at Pools.........you have the LinQ center for Entertainment as well as Central Park, you have boxing and UFC that bring in thousands. You have shopping centers in or at Hotels like Venetian, Caesars, PH, Central Park, Bally's, (Hawaiian Market Place, OK, j/k), etc.

    Vegas is just not only gambling, as owners have found out, it's about what you can do to bring in Vegas as a destination to people who want to be entertained.

    But i don't really see that happening now on the north, maybe SLS and later on Echolon, but it will be tough (just ask Riviera). I do hope it will somehow pick up in the future. But with so many more entertainment options (and more coming) like the mid/south strip, and options like Downtown and off Strip...............i feel the "north" strip may be doomed at least for the next few years.

    The last few years i have taken the Lux Bus from Anaheim to Vegas. Most of the people i meet are tourists from other counties visiting SoCal and then Vegas and then back. What they always mention is they only have a couple of days to spend in Vegas, nearly all of them are staying at TI/Wynn/and points south to MB.
    They mention what they want to see and do and they all say pretty much the same thing..........the Strip. But to them the "Strip" is not north of Wynn and FSM. They hardly gamble if any. The visitors from this country want to do some gambling but also do other things.

    Vegas has always stayed ahead of the curve, and will continue to do so. As a Vegaholic, i keep going there because i still have a dream of getting a Royal Flush AND hooking up with a Cromwell CW........:wink2:
     
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    If they really develop the lot across the street from SLS into a concert venue, then you'll see some traction. But as a stand-alone place, I agree that they won't get the people who wander the Strip. Hell, a lot of those people never make it across Sands Ave. :D
     
  15. Funkhouser

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    Actually I think they could pickup quite a bit of strip traffic from the monorail, if and only if they offer something new and good service.
    I would ride the monorail for good dinning, and more favorable odds the rest of strip, nice rooms with loose upfront comps for players and they could build some loyalty, provided they don't screw up on the service delivery.
     
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    theres already great food on the strip without schleeping down that far and for tables there great 6 deck starting at 25$ on the strip and dd also sometimes lower so im noture how much better or lower they can go , also u have to figure in the expenses to get there, how much more up front can u get than cet for little play in comps and right now cosmo is giving away the place in comps also for no play with no rythm or reason.

    it going to be interesting
     
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    wait till these posts start pppong up, i cost 35$ by cab to get the sls did i get ripped off.its only a matter of time
     
  18. VivaMattyVegas

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    Some great discussion on this topic, attempting to become a locals weekday/tourists weekend destination will fail, just ask Palms.

    Some mention the Resorts World project. This might not affect SLS at all seeing how most of it is across from Encore, figure it'd hurt Wynn's baccarat play if they have the right hosts come in and swoop some of that play up.

    I do hope SLS does well as this is a major debate we have at work (I work in the table games area of a strip casino) We discuss how we think dealers will do, and this is a rare project that no one can outright say this will be a major success.
     
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    GVR, Red Rock, Sam's Town and downtown can't be seen from the strip either. Not being seen from the strip is not a criteria for success.
     
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    I applaud your goals and dreams sir.
     
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