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mss and boyd properties---slot points---resort fee

Discussion in 'Comps' started by dukeofdarby, Feb 13, 2015.

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  1. dukeofdarby

    dukeofdarby Low-Roller

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    am getting less offers for comp rooms with the boyd properties particulalry mss----been going to mss and other boyd properties for over 15 years and play about the same amount thru vp machines every trip---with offers drying up am thinking of using slot points to cover the room-----question is can I use these points to cover the room as well as the resort fees ?----if so, is this done when I call to make the arrangements or at check-in or check-out?-----have been and still am a sapphire card holder-----have been able to get comp rooms for 15 years?
     
  2. Wanger1969

    Wanger1969 High-Roller

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    You can certainly use your slot points to cover the room, but Boyd properties do not have a resort fee. They are one of the few hold outs.
     
  3. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Gold Coast/Orleans have it at least.

    They are both $13+tax/nt.

    But MSS currently doesn't. Hopefully that holds on...not holding my breath.

    And when staying at any hotel with resort fees, I've never heard of not being able to use your points toward them.
     
  4. makikiboy

    makikiboy VIP Whale

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    The Boyd downtown properties do not charge a resort fee but their other properties (Orleans, GC, Sam's town) charge resort fees.
     
  5. petnel

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    I just checked out of MSS on Friday after a 6 night stay. Here's my latest experience with them. I am a long time customer there usually staying twice a year. I play mainly the $.25 10/7 VP, and lately some of the 10 play bonus poker because it is so much fun. I usually put through $5-10K/day on the VP play.

    My February offer was for 3 nights free and $25 in freeplay. Ipo booked me with one night casino rate, and 5 nights comped. A few hours before checking out on Friday evening (I had the room for Friday night even though I was leaving around 9PM to catch the redeye back to Boston) I spoke with Ipo. She was unable to comp the sixth night. My coin in for this trip was $47300, although when I spoke to Ipo it was a bit less than that, say $46300. That's about $7700 per day. I was surprised she was not able to comp the sixth night as I've never had to pay for a room there.

    When I went to check out, I asked the front desk clerk if I could pay with comp dollars (there was a 5x point multiplier for much of my stay so I had more of them than I am used to). The clerk said that needed to go through a host. This didn't make a lot of sense since you can use points for merchandise at the shops in MSS and the Cal, but I didn't feel like going back to Ipo again so I just paid it.

    Peter
     
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    Royal Flusher Savvy Gambler

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    Wow that's kinda harsh considering your coin in. Must be a function of playing the 10/7, and also, did you maybe win lately?
     
  7. dukeofdarby

    dukeofdarby Low-Roller

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    wow!---does not look good----if anyone at mss can do something for you it is ipo and I have found her to be liberal----has anyone actually used comp dollars for their room and if so was it done on making the call for reservations or at check-In or check-out
     
  8. petnel

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    I am a bit embarrassed to say I can't be sure of how much ahead I was showing up as. It was either a couple of hundred ahead, or a thousand. My husband and I were pooling our resources to play the 10 play BP, and we got one royal while doing so which was a net session win of $800. But, I don't know whose card was in the machine at the time and I forgot to ask my coin out when I was getting my coin in from the slot club. I was definitely ahead at MSS on my last trip (two royals on the 10 play), maybe $1500 or more. Does actual win/loss figure into the comps at MSS or do they work on theo only?
     
  9. dukeofdarby

    dukeofdarby Low-Roller

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    made a call to mss and spoke to a host----ipo----found her to helpful in the past-----she advises slot points can not be used for room charges,only for food and in the gift shop-----also stated the points can be converted into cash------ipo states this is the policy at all boyd properties---
     
  10. Rush

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    Boyd is terrible at getting back to me when I ask then on a "question" on the box on their internet site. I always get the automated email saying someone will contact me shortly, and never hear a thing! I think that is rude as hell!

    I give 90% of my play to Orleans over the last 10 years, and the offers seem to get stingier as the years go by. At the same time, I dropped a few coins in the machines at Sam's Town two years ago, and just got a mailer for 5 nights and a gold card for food! Go figure.
     
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    I literally cannot understand this...if you haven't been in there for two years (aka: 2013). Then something is either seriously WRONG with their DirectMail, or you've gotten them in the past and didn't realize it (I mean; they may not have ACTUALLY came to your correct address)
     
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    Can you say how much your play was on the 10/7 DB vs the 10-play 8/5 BP? (70% / 30% ?)
    Those 10/7 DB earn basically ZERO theo (I would guess they have them set at .5% Theo), and the multiplay BP's probably have 2%. So let's average that out to 1% for the course...
    1% of $46,500 = $465, which a casino will comp back between 30%-35% (let's set it at 33%) which would give you $153 worth of total comps.
    Now, your "comp" 5 nights were probably $40 per night, so right there you're already "in the hole".

    Casino comps are a tough nut to crack...but one thing I've learned from MSS, is they want Three Consistent Trips Per Year to really qualify for the "best" comps (IE: $300 ADT over the course of three trips IN A YEAR)
     
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    I'm serious. I was there in April of 2013. Played some VP, for a couple hours, and some craps for a while. Maybe some bj, I don't recall. I don't recall getting too many mailers from these guys. I get two or more a week from Orleans, and a few a month from MSS. The ST offer is the best one I have ever received.

    On a side note. I did speak with a host at Orleans, and they booked me over there for 5 nights, so I am good with that. That's always been home base for me, so I will feel much better about my trip now.
     
  14. petnel

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    Hey Tim thanks for doing the quick calculation of what my theo might have been. Your numbers are probably close to what I did, and so I guess I was comped just about right. I have been going to MSS for what seems like a hundred years now (remember 10/7/80 Double Bonus?) and still have it in my head that $5-6K/day is all you need for a room and some food. I once even got a silver card and a suite (all sort of wasted on me since it was a solo trip). I guess things change!

    I didn't know MSS (Boyd downtown in general?) wanted three trips a year. That would be no problem if I lived on the west coast, but living in Massachusetts I am only able to manage two a year. Maybe Boyd will loosen up a little bit now that hey have some competition from the likes of the D. Stayed there for the first time on my last trip with $75 FP and $75 in match plays after giving them $10K in a day on my previous trip. Really nice rooms and a decent coffee shop. VP could be better, but there is some 10/7 and NSUD.

    Peter
     
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