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MLife Express Comps Might Make Sense (Sometimes)

Discussion in 'Comps' started by nostresshere, Aug 1, 2012.

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  1. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    I started to post this on another thread, but figured it should stand alone. The topic of using ECs for room charges vs having a host comp them off comes up often.

    I think in the big picture they are trying to get the comps out of the hands of hosts, and into a computer system. In theory, it sort of makes sense, for most players.

    Old Way: Your play earns $530 in comps. You see the host, and he takes $530 off your bill. Unless of course, your bill was only $340. Then he takes off $340. And you go on your way.

    New Way: As you play, you earn Express Comps. In theory, if the same person above earns $530 in comps, they just use their EC at checkout to pay for things. In this example, they have some left over for the future. No host involved.

    Good and bad with both systems of course. And, those HIGH rollers fit into a different situation anyways.

    But, the more you play, the more ECs you earn. You decide what you want comped vs hoping you find a host in a good mood.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Ike

    Ike Low-Roller

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    Of course it makes sense, everything a casino does makes sense from one standpoint or another, but it doesn't mean their new method isn't a takeaway for a large portion of gamblers out there. For a while, it was earn express comps, get a portion of your stay and room charges comped off according to your play and independent from your express comps, use express comps for any remaining charges and keep the rest for future/other uses. You basically got the same comps, but were able to build a higher EC balance. In other words, things have changed, and while they may make perfect sense for new players and keep them happy, anyone who has played with MGM in the past beyond low roller status is going to feel like they've been bent over.
     
  3. Reed

    Reed High-Roller

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    I think the new way (if that is exactly how they are doing it, since half their employees still don't know how it works) sucks. I am not a big spender, but I get comped nights through a host and she has taken off part of my bill before checkout. I then have used my Express Comps to take care of the rest. Since I do not eat a lot in Vegas - and through my host's additional comps - I have managed to build up ECs as I have earned more than I used per trip. This new method of applying EC before host comps will put an end to that.

    Not a huge deal overall, but with the extra $150-200 I would have been earning every trip, I was planning on using for a round at Shadow Creek.
     
  4. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Funny how some of us are getting upset cause we have to use our EC's to pay for stuff. Just a short year or so ago, we had ZERO EC's.

    After our visit, we would find a host and maybe get some comped off, maybe not. All depends on each persons level of play of course.
     
  5. JosieCat

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    I am not upset about the change. It's their program - they can do whatever they want. What upsets me is that they keep changing the program because it was poorly designed in the first place, and then they don't communicate those changes to people. I mean, even finding any employee that knows anything is a struggle.

    I mean if you've got a big player (or even a medium player) who has his room comped, food comped, and pretty much everything else comped - it never occurred to them that that player was going to end up with a large accumulation of express comps.
     
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    DK528 Low-Roller

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    I wonder if my decisions last week will negatively affect my comps going forward.

    Started with about $200 in ECs. Left with $430. Earned about 90,000 tier credits. I went to the MLife desk before I checked out to see if I could have anything taken off without using my ECs. I couldn't. I decided against using my EC's to pay off my $300ish bill b/c of two reasons: (i) I want to save my ECs for a trip I have planned with my dad and little brother, so I could treat them to things and (b) I wanted the $300ish bill to turn into whatever ECs that turns into (7,500 by my count) towards my platinum status.

    Do you think the fact that there's $430 in ECs left (from my last two trips -- had wiped them out during my trip last December) will hurt my comps? Or have no bearing?

    Thanks!
     
  7. Viva Las Vegas

    Viva Las Vegas Ramblin' Gamblin' Man

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    I cash out any comps at the end of each trip at all properties except Harrahs (CET FreePlay cash out = $0.50 on the dollar).

    I always have cashed out or convert to freeplay all points (leaving $0-$10) via FreePlay before leaving MILFe properties. I do the same at any other property (Cash back at Four Queens, free play at others).

    You never know when you are going back and your points may expire so you may as well use them your final day (or your final day of play if you are skipping gambling your check out day for ADT purposes).

    When you cash out, and get the hell out of town, you do not have to worry about losing expired points or MILFe audits/incompetence.

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  8. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    There is some good thinking about spending all your EC's before leaving town. After all, if you never come back, then they are worth ZERO. In our case, we do get to Tunica and Biloxi, but it does concern me from time to time, with $3,000 sitting there.
     
  9. tacallian

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    It honestly is probably nothing more than a liability dump. The shareholders would have been getting edgy with such a large amount of outstanding express comps.

    I would hazard a guess that for some, it would be a better idea to use express comps throughout the trip on whatever you can that you'd be buying anyway. This reduces the possibility of having unused "discretionary" comps left over that vanish into the nether instead of being carried forward like express comps used to.
     
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