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Mlife and BJ Ratings

Discussion in 'Comps' started by domeboy, May 26, 2013.

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  1. domeboy

    domeboy VIP Whale

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    Over the last few years I have been mainly a slot player. On my next trip I am planning on starting to play BJ again. Since I havent played in awhile, my comfort level will be around $15 a hand. Since they won't rate at Mlife properties until at least $25/hand how will my play look in terms of my comp room (not through host) and future offers.

    I dont want to be in a position where I get accused of no play or low play.
     
  2. Llew

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    If you're not rated, it will look like no play.
     
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    They used to not rate you because it wasn't worth the time of all the manual input. Any of the casinos with the computer input you'll be rated on at whatever level you're playing, even $5.
     
  4. HuskerBB

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    Are they doing the automatic input anywhere other than Aria? That is the only place where I have seen that discussed.
     
  5. toastcmu

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    This past April, I played some $10 BJ at Bellagio and they actually took my card as well. I had made a crack about the $25/hand when I sat down and the floor laughed and told me now they'll take it - it'll just take forever to get anything meaningful... ;)

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  6. WrongWayWade

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    That's not true any more (about not rating below $25/hand). They record all play at tables if you give them a card. It's just slower at lower bets. Always give them your card. You probably have to play higher than $15 (or LOTS of hours) to get more free room offers, but you'll still record some express comps that you can use for free food.

    If they've given you the free room up front, just play as much as you want at the level you want. Usually they consider these 'promotions' and not comps, so they aren't going to come down on you if you don't play enough. The promotions are usually based on your past play, not contingent on what you do this trip (at least for low-roller offers).
     
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    I think basically every casino uses a computerized system at the tables nowadays to record your play. Look around and you'll see touch screens at every table or at least at the podium in the pit.
     
  8. Fligster

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    Just at aria earlier this month, they wouldn't take card or rate for less than $25. This was different tables, different pit bosses
     
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    You know, it's funny, I remember that they all used to have the touch screens right at the table, but on my last couple trips I distinctly remember places like Mandalay and maybe even Aria keeping track of my play on slips of paper. I thought it was strange, because I could have sworn that the places where this happened used to have touch screens at every table.
     
  10. tacallian

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    Mirage has also been known to outright refuse to even look at it below quarters.
     
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    I still don't buy this. How does it work? I sit down at a $15 blackjack table and the pit boss asks me "how much are you going to bet?", I say "$15" and he throws the card back at me?

    I've never been asked how much I'm going to bet before I start playing. I've never had a pit boss give the card back and tell me to not bother because I'm betting too little.
     
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    Yes, but the aren't "nasty" about it and won't throw it back. The first time, I gave my card, and the pit boss came over, gave it back and said I don't need this if you aren't betting $25 or more. Another time, I saw the pit boss ask a person if they were going to bet at least $25 a hand before taking it (he bought in for a couple of hundred but had some red chips).
     
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    They don't ask, but they'll look at what you're betting, and if it's less than $25, they'll just tell you that they won't rate you. When this happened to me a couple years back, I mentioned that I had just been rated at Mandalay with a $15 bet, and the guy said something to the effect of, "Every property is different in terms of what they'll rate."

    I've never really understood why Mirage, of all places, is stricter about this than the higher-end properties like Bellagio, Mandalay Bay, etc.
     
  14. Llew

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    That's my experience. Was playing craps there and dropped below for a little while, pit boss came out and let me know, privately, that this would cause me not to be rated.
     
  15. undathesea

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    I was at Aria just this month and they don't take cards at BJ for under $25. As far as I know they don't do it for any MGM properties.

    They may take your card from you and not rate you until you start playing $25 and above.
     
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    yeah don't confuse them taking your card with them rating you. there's been pit bosses on here that have reported that they will take anybody's card, but if they aren't betting enough, they won't say anything, they just won't rate them. so you can give them your card, they take it and you think everything's good and you still don't get rated.
     
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    I personally think this is a terrible policy, especially when lazy pit bosses don't warn players they will not be rated for <$25 play. And if you play games like Ultimate Texas Holdem or Mississippi Stud, a $25 ante is like betting $100 at blackjack in terms of variance, which will be rough for a lot of casual players.

    Sure you won't get much if you bet <$25 at CET, but at least they will give you something.
     
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    This is true, but I've also personally had experiences where I later checked with the desk and was told that I had "2 hours of craps at $85 and 4 hours of blackjack at $15". Basically, the bottom line is that although they won't definitely rate you below $25, it's also categorically wrong to say "MGM properties will never rate you under $25".
     
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    Interesting. What casino is this? I've been told this at every MGM property that I've ever played at. Granted, I always find the tables with the best rules, so I don't sit at 6:5 blackjack and games like that...
     
  20. mike_m235

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    At Mirage, this is prevalent. My brother was betting quarters, and still didn't get rated for half of his play during our stay there.
     
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